NY Times vs. Microsoft; Plus, Oren Etzioni on AI in 2023 and beyond
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🗓️ 30 December 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Our guest this week on the GeekWire Podcast is computer scientist and entrepreneur Oren Etzioni, assessing the past year in AI, and looking ahead to what's next. Etzioni, an AI leader for many decades, is professor emeritus at the University of Washington, Allen Institute for Artificial Intelligence board member, AI2 Incubator technical director, and Madrona Venture Group venture partner.
In the first segment of the show, GeekWire's John Cook and Todd Bishop discuss the big AI news of the week: The New York Times Co.'s landmark lawsuit against Microsoft and OpenAI over their use of the newspaper's articles in AI models.
- The New York Times sues OpenAI and Microsoft for training AI chatbots on its copyrighted work
- NYT v. GPT: Microsoft finds itself on the other side of an industry-defining copyright dispute
- Francesco Marconi in the WSJ: AI and Journalism Need Each Other
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| 0:00.0 | The biggest surprise is that AI used to be narrow and when you went from one application to the other you had to redo it all from scratch |
| 0:11.4 | Which really surprised us is the emergence of general tools, right? |
| 0:17.2 | So GPT is general. You can talk to it about anything. It's almost the love child of a search engine like Google, which you can |
| 0:27.1 | talk about anything, with the somewhat limited but very real intelligence of AI systems. |
| 0:33.2 | Hello and welcome to GeekWire. |
| 0:42.3 | I'm GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop. And I'm GeekWire co-founder John Cook. |
| 0:46.0 | We are coming to you from GeekWire in Seattle where we get to report each day on what's happening |
| 0:50.0 | around us in business, technology, and innovation. |
| 0:53.3 | What happens here matters everywhere and every week on this show. |
| 0:56.4 | We talk about some of the most interesting stories and trends in the news. |
| 1:00.1 | Later on, we're going to be talking with one of the leaders in the field of AI, one of the long-time leaders, or in Etsioni, |
| 1:06.2 | about the year that we've just been through and what's coming up next. |
| 1:10.1 | But first, John, I wanted to pull you into the office here on the Friday before the long holiday weekend, the New Year's weekend, because we had some big AI news this past week. |
| 1:20.0 | The New York Times Company sued Microsoft and Open AI for copyright infringement over their |
| 1:28.3 | use of New York Times articles and content in the training of various artificial intelligence models, |
| 1:36.3 | not the least of them allegedly, various forms of GPT by open AI and |
| 1:41.7 | then by incorporation, Bing Chat and everything that Microsoft has done. |
| 1:47.8 | This is a fascinating case to me on multiple levels. |
| 1:51.0 | It certainly crosses our interests. |
| 1:53.0 | We both read the complaint, portions of the complaint, the coverage. |
| 1:58.0 | I'd be really curious just to start us off, John. |
| 2:00.1 | Are there any big picture thoughts that you have on the implications or the details of the New York Times lawsuit against Microsoft and open AI? |
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