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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Omid Djalili: Finding Humanity Through Comedy, from 9/11 to the Middle East wars

Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Channel 4 News

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Comedian Omid Djalili talks to Krishnan Guru-Murthy about Syria, Israel, Gaza and the Iranian regime, and why the West should care about the Middle East.

In this episode of Ways to Change the World, Djalili says a combination of his Baha’i faith, his heritage and the encouragement of friends is what has kept him resilient in the face of setbacks, including being “cancelled” after the 9/11 attacks.

Produced by Silvia Maresca

 

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World. I'm Christian Guru Murphy and this is the podcast

0:05.8

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas in their lives and the events

0:10.7

that have helped shape them. My guest this week is the comedian and actor Ahmed Jalili, who is on

0:19.2

tour at the moment with a show called Namaste, which we'll get into,

0:23.1

but has starred in all sorts of amazing comedy films over the years.

0:28.2

And I really feel like you're in the eye of the storm right now, because as we speak,

0:33.6

Syria has fallen, Iran has been in the news non-stop this year. And you, of course,

0:38.9

are Persian or Iranian. But we've been trying to get you on this podcast for a long time.

0:44.2

And I don't want to come on. You didn't want to come on? No. Because you thought this was a

0:48.6

dangerous place. I think this is the most dangerous podcast out there, because thoughts and ideas are really powerful.

0:56.4

And as everyone knows, there's a small ruling minority that are very happy with the way

1:01.1

things are. And if you talk about changing the worlds in a positive way, well, they don't

1:05.3

want those changes. So if you do think of something that is great, and overnight, you change

1:10.4

world hunger. Overnight, you bring the globe great. And overnight, you change world hunger. Over night, you bring

1:12.0

the globe together. The next day, you may not even wake up, because traditionally, whenever there's

1:17.7

been a great invention or great idea, those people have been snuffed out. And I'm worried because

1:22.4

I've got lots of ideas. If I share that on here, it could be that you and I both wake up in a coffin.

1:29.4

And I want to know, will you be wearing that? Because I don't want to be in eternity with the

1:33.4

guy next to me like this. Yeah, no, I know. I'm a little scruffy stay. But I try to keep it sort of

1:38.5

informal on the podcast. I mean, it's sort of, so you were a man with lots of ideas. Yeah. And unusually for a comic, you do want to change the world rather than just poke fun and scorn at it.

1:51.4

I do believe in the transformative power of comedy.

1:55.1

I think that's something that I wholeheartedly believe in, only because I know that laughter is such an important thing in life,

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