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Sword and Scale Nightmares

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Sword and Scale Nightmares

Incongruity

True Crime, Society & Culture, History, Documentary

4.86.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The report of what appeared to be a body on the front porch of a home in small-town St. Johns, Arizona triggered an investigation that would be quick, but not without a myriad of twists and turns. 

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0:00.0

A November 5, 2008, two police officers in a small town called St. John's Arizona were

0:19.8

dispatched to a home where collars reported seeing what looked like a Halloween decoration

0:27.1

left out a few days too late. But collars were most concerned about how realistic this

0:36.0

decoration looked. Responding officers would soon realize the single piece of leftover

0:43.6

decor was not a Halloween decoration at all.

0:48.3

Welcome to Sword and Scale Nightmares, true crime for bedtime. Where Nightmare began

1:13.6

in now.

1:37.8

Nightmare is a tiny little town in Apache County with just over 3,000 residents. It's

1:46.5

a little blip on the map north of the Apache National Forest. The town's motto is the town

1:54.0

of friendly neighbors, and quite literally everyone knows everyone.

2:01.0

On November 5, 2008, Debbie Neckall was celebrating. She'd just been promoted to detective

2:08.3

at the St. John's Police Department the day prior. This was her second year in the department,

2:15.3

which in the line of police work is not very long at all. Given that her new title was

2:22.1

so fresh, Debbie was understandably nervous about the responsibilities that entailed. Before

2:29.5

her promotion, Debbie worked as a school resource officer. So the types of situations

2:35.0

she dealt with involved scuffles between kids. Now, her job would be to respond to real

2:42.4

crime scenes. She knew she had entered the big leagues, and she was about to get a taste

2:49.2

of how gruesome reality can get.

2:53.1

On this particular Wednesday, a little after 5pm, someone called the police department

2:58.7

to report hearing shots fired, and then seeing something strange on someone's front porch.

3:06.5

It looked like a dead body. Now this was only a few days after Halloween, so Debbie and

3:13.6

her partner, Sergeant Lucas Rodriguez, weren't totally convinced this call would even amount

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