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Eat Sleep Work Repeat

Bruce Daisley

Management, Workplace Culture, Science, Work, Business, Culture, Social Sciences

4.7 • 989 Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Over the last few weeks I've been intrigued with the firms who have chosen to bite the bullet and ditch their office. What are their philosophies about getting colleagues together in person? How do they think about recruiting? What software tools do they use? What made them make the leap?

First up I talked to Camilla Boyer who plays a leading role at making the culture at events platform Hopin. Andrew McNeile is the Chief Customer Officer for Thinscale - a company that supplies secure remote working software for outsourcing firms. One of their customers has 375,000 user on their remote work systems. Then I chatted to Lewis Clark at Qatalog he is responsible for storytelling at Qatalog who are remote first (but he spends one day a week in the office).

Then I realised all of these firms were in some way invested in the shift to remote working so I talked to a real person - Lisa Freshwater has been helping Blood Cancer UK ditch their office for good. Finally I chatted to Dan Sodergren whose company YourFLOCK is fully remote.

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0:00.0	Hello this is Eek sleep Work with Pete, I'm Bruce Dazley to podcast about making work better.
0:10.0	Good to have you here. Today's episode is really driven by personal curiosity. I've had some interesting discussions over the course of the last few weeks.
0:18.0	I've been chatting to more and more organizations who've been either experimenting with
0:24.4	hybrid work and they've expressed a dawning realization that it isn't going to work
0:31.0	or have reached an epiphany that they've looked two years
0:35.1	down the road and said actually we'd much rather do something radical now
0:39.5	rather than wait for it to happen to us. So I guess to go into the details of that,
0:45.4	why might firms say that hybrid work isn't working for them?
0:49.3	Well, the firms I've spoken to have often been united, and look, and I've spoken to probably in the last month
0:55.9	40 different organizations from a whole range of different sectors and the firms have spoken to generally united in saying that when they first go back to the office
1:07.2	there's a thrill of excitement these a moment of reconnection actually there's a lot of laughter there's a lot of laughter, there's a lot of people
1:14.3	getting back together, and then very quickly people have gone into their task
1:20.3	oriented mode which has been fixated on trying to get their meetings and calls done.
1:26.5	Now there have been some firms who've said we're only doing face-to-face meetings but they seem to be the exception.
1:32.8	So you've immediately got this situation where firms are filled with people trying to find
1:38.5	meeting rooms to have video calls.
1:40.5	Now, presumably the one thing that we do all agree on is firstly that hybrid meetings
1:47.0	aren't very effective and secondly that trying to do a video call from the office is often significantly worse than doing a video call
1:55.8	from home largely because if you're all dialing in remotely, unless you've got phone
2:00.9	booths or meeting rooms, it's not very easy to do. Anyway, so in the
2:06.2	context of that, I've been really intrigued that a few firms have come to me and said, look,
2:11.7	we're actually going to do something a bit more radical
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