You're listening to a special bonus series of the Your Own Backyard Podcast, titled

People vs. Flores, a weekly recap of the murder trial of Paul and Ruben Flores.

Since filming and audio recording aren't currently allowed inside the courtroom, these

episodes will recount handwritten notes taken by host Chris Lambert, breaking from our typical

documentary format in an effort to get updates out as regularly and succinctly as possible.

These recaps will likely contain subject matter that may be graphic and disturbing to some

listeners.

Your discretion is advised.

On Wednesday, September 21st, Defense Attorney Robert Sanger called his first witness,

Dr. David Carter to the stand.

Carter is a professor of forensics at Shamanad University in Honolulu and holds a PhD in

Microbiology.

After 45 minutes of war, going over Dr. Carter's education and publications and peer-reviewed

journals, the court designated Dr. Carter an expert in human decomposition.

Carter testified that he reviewed photographs of the excavation area below Ruben Flores's

deck, as well as the Heam Direct Test results of forensic DNA analyst Angela Butler.

Sanger asked, based on everything you saw, do you have an opinion as to whether or not

those areas appear to be consistent with the burial spot of a human being?

Carter answered, I don't see anything in the data that confirms the presence of human

remains.

Sanger responded, what also is associated with the place where human remains have been

deposited, if a body had been buried, and exuded blood or any other kinds of liquids, is

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