All right, guys, welcome back to the dead tired podcast.

I'm so excited to have Peter Astopko with us, the founder and publisher of the Kinsman Journal,

and he is going to kind of talk us through what they're up to.

We've got some new things inside, but also just a really cool ministry and effort.

We're excited for you guys to learn about.

Peter, what's up, man?

Hey, so glad to on here, so thank you.

Yeah, fan of Jared. I'm just to fill in chop liver.

No, no, no, no.

Jared's incredible.

Yeah.

Peter, did I say your last name, right?

You did.

Bravo, my friend, Estopco.

That's right.

Yeah, it's a Polish-Ukrainian name. It's not easy to say. And no, you did well. Thank you.

Yeah, so where are you somewhere in the Midwest, right? Yeah, so we're headquartered in the

Springfield, Missouri area. So right, right in the heart of flyover country, I like to say.

Yeah, yeah, cool. Okay, tell me a bit about Kinsman Journal. I was like just researching and getting familiar.

I wasn't super familiar with before, but yeah, dude, seems like you guys are doing some cool things.

But can you fill the guys in on like journal, the idea of a magazine that that being kind of rare these days?

Yeah. Yeah. I'll, uh, I'll tell the kind of two, three minute, uh, you know, elevator, long elevator spiel.

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