Phil Stutz & Elise Loehnen Share Tools For Inner Well-being, How To Embrace Pain, Uncertainty & Constant Work As Divine Invitations, & Why Everything You’re Avoiding Will Transform Your Life

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Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 12.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Phil Stutz is the legendary psychiatrist, author, and protagonist in the Netflix documentary “Stutz.” Alongside co-author and writer Elise Loehnen, they explore their new book “True & False Magic.” This conversation delves into “Part X”—the destructive force within us all—along with Universe 1 vs. Universe 2 thinking, and how pain, uncertainty, and constant work serve as unavoidable portals to growth. Together, they present actionable tools and a profound spiritual framework for living fully. Along the way, Phil illustrates concepts with hand-drawn diagrams, while Elise translates these insights into everyday practice. Their complementary wisdom offers a rare treasure—an invitation to a more expansive way of being. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: iFit: Use the code RICHROLL to get 10% off any purchase of $999+ 👉NordicTrack.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Bon Charge: Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉 boncharge.com AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Squarespace: Use the code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain 👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉BetterHelp.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

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0:00.0	This past year, I unlocked a major life dream, which was to build my own home gym.
0:07.4	I got to tell you, it's the greatest thing ever, just this gift that keeps giving to be able to wake up before the sun, walk just a few feet, and have my own space to get right into my morning fitness routine.
0:18.1	When it came to selecting the equipment for my gym,
0:20.9	which is this customized 40-foot shipping container,
0:23.5	I looked at a lot of stuff.
0:25.2	And home fitness, it's come a long way,
0:27.7	and I really wanted to outfit my limited space
0:30.1	with the smartest, most immersive gear
0:33.0	that actually enhances the way that I could train.
0:36.7	And what came out on top was Nordotrack.
0:39.7	Not only because they've led the at-home fitness space for like 50 years at this point,
0:45.3	but because what they're doing right now is truly next level. Exemplified by my favorite piece
0:51.2	of kit, their commercial X32I treadmill, which simulates real world terrain with an incredible 40% incline and 6% decline.
1:02.0	The S27I studio bike mimics road conditions with a 20% incline and a minus 10% decline.
1:09.6	And the RW 900 Rower, it's smooth, it's fluid, and built-to-keep momentum effortless.
1:16.1	But what really sets this apart is IFITPro.
1:19.2	Their new AI coach builds, personal plans, schedules workouts, and keeps you accountable
1:24.4	all through simple text exchanges.
1:27.2	I'm even training with my buddies, friends of the pod, people like Tommy Rives, Knox Robinson,
1:32.4	and Dan Churchill, with the machines that automatically adjust to match their workouts in real time.
1:39.3	So stop stalling your progress because you don't know what to do next.
1:43.3	With Nordotrack and Ifit.
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