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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Philip Deslippe & Stacie Stukin - 3HO, Kundalini Yoga, & Yogi Bhajan

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Today our guests are historian Philip Deslippe and writer Stacie Sutkin, who together have done investigative reporting on 3HO (“happy, healthy, holy organization”), Kundalini yoga, and Yogi Bhajan. They’re going to tell us how they got started writing about 3HO, both interacting with Kundalini yoga in different ways, who Yogi Bhajan was and whether he had any credibility in the Sikh religion (spoiler: he did not), and how he began to get white Americans to believe he was the ultimate spiritual authority, rapidly expanding and profiting off of the money and property of his followers. They’ll tell us about some of the many ways Yogi Bhajan exerted control over his followers lives, the practice of separating children from their parents in a practice called “distance therapy,” and the boarding schools kids were sent to for years that turned out to be neglectful and abusive, all within full knowledge and approval of Yogi Bhajan. Plus, the wave of survivors that came forward to tell their stories of his and the organization’s abuse, and how they were failed by 3HO’s reparations program. We have deals for you! Quince: Upgrade your closet! Go to Quince.com/trust for 365-day returns PLUS free shipping on your order!  Shopify: Need help with your business? Sign up for your $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/trustme  BUY OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast 

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being an occult or a high control group, or if you've had experience with manipulation or abuse of power that you'd like to share, leave us a message on our hotline number at 347-868-6-trust.

0:12.1

That's 347-8-68-7-8.

0:16.0

Or shoot us an email at trust me pod at gmail.com.

0:20.1

Trust me. Dude, you.com. Trust me.

0:21.0

Dude, you trust me.

0:22.5

Trust me.

0:23.5

I'm like a smart person.

0:25.1

I've never lied to you.

0:27.0

I never have lied to you.

0:28.5

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't.

0:32.5

Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation from two breaths of fire

0:39.8

who've actually experienced it. I am Lola Blanc. And I am Megan Elizabeth. And today our guests

0:45.3

are historian Philip DeSlip and writer Stacey Sutkin, who together have done investigative reporting

0:51.0

on 3HO, Kundalini Yoga, and Yogi Budgeon. You can also see them in the

0:55.8

recent documentary on 3-H-O called Breath of Fire. They're going to tell us how they got

0:59.7

started writing about 3-H-O, both of them interacting with Kundalini Yoga in different ways,

1:04.0

who Yogi-Budgeon was and whether he had any credibility in the Sikh religion. Spoiler,

1:08.6

he didn't. And how he began to get white Americans to believe he

1:11.7

was the ultimate spiritual authority rapidly expanding and profiting off of the money and property

1:16.9

of his followers. They'll tell us about some of the many ways yogi Bajan exerted control over his

1:21.6

followers' lives, the practice of separating children from their parents, and a practice called

1:26.1

distance therapy. and the boarding

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