REWIND: Frank Lyford - Heaven's Gate, Part 2: Breaking Away

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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🗓️ 15 January 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Episode 23: Lola Blanc & Meagan Elizabeth continue to interview Frank Lyford, former member of Heaven's Gate. In part 2, they discuss the growing number of red flags he began to notice after one of the leaders died, including talk of castration, and what led to his decision to finally, after 18 years, break away. He also tells the girls what it was like when he heard about the mass suicide on the news, how heartbreaking that was, the lessons he's learned as a result, and what his life is like now. Original Airdate: 03/17/2021 Trust Me is sponsored by Shopify! Upgrade your business! Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/trustme BUY OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast

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0:00.0	If you have your own story of being an occult or a high control group, or if you've had experience with manipulation or abuse of power that you'd like to share, leave us a message on our hotline number at 347-86-8-6-trust.
0:12.1	That's 347-8-68-7-8.
0:16.0	Or shoot us an email at trust me pod at gmail.com.
0:20.1	Trust me. Dude, you.com. Trust me.
0:21.0	Dude, you trust me.
0:22.5	Trust me.
0:23.5	I'm like a smart person.
0:25.1	I've never lied to you.
0:27.0	I never have lied.
0:28.5	If you think that one person has all the answers, don't.
0:32.6	Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about cult's extreme belief and manipulation from two
0:37.4	former cult members who've
0:38.7	actually experienced it. I'm Megan Elizabeth. Lola isn't here for the intro today, but she's
0:43.5	part of this incredible interview. So let's jump into part two with former Heavens Gate member
0:48.6	Frank Lloyd. We'll discuss the growing number of red flags Frank began to notice after one of the
0:53.7	leaders died, including talk of castration, Frank began to notice after one of the leaders died,
0:54.6	including talk of castration and what led to his decision to finally after 18 years break away.
1:00.6	Also, he shares the heartbreaking story of how he first heard about the mass suicide on the news,
1:05.7	the lessons he's learned as a result, and what his life is like now.
1:09.3	Our heart really goes out to anybody affected by the Los Angeles fires.
1:13.5	So Lola and I are fine.
1:15.7	We are safe.
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