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🗓️ 7 February 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Masters of Scale brings you a special episode of Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway featuring conversation with our show’s founding host Reid Hoffman. Together, they discuss the hype and fears around DeepSeek, why spending money on AI is a good thing and insights from Reid’s newest book: "Superagency: What Could Possibly Go Right with Our AI Future." Then, Kara and Scott discuss Meta settling with Trump for $25 million, and the White House attempt to take a page out of Elon's playbook in offering buyouts to federal employees. Plus, the contentious RFK Jr. hearings. And will Kara get a podcaster seat at the White House briefings? We hope you enjoy!
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0:00.0 | Hi, it's Reid Hoffman, and today we're bringing something a little different to the |
0:04.4 | Masters of Scale feed. Recently, I had the pleasure of joining my friends Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway |
0:10.4 | on their podcast, Pivot, to talk about everything from the very real hype and fears surrounding |
0:16.4 | Deepseek to why I believe investing in AI is a good thing. |
0:25.9 | Keep listening to hear the full episode, and if you enjoy it, be sure to subscribe to Pivot with Karat Swisher and Scott Galloway, so you never miss an update. |
0:30.1 | Let me just say, Amanda loves your whole, this whole jam, Scott. |
0:32.9 | She was like, Scott's on fire, I love it. |
0:35.5 | She was vaguely attracted to you, I think. |
0:37.2 | Vaguely is doing a lot of work there. |
0:42.0 | Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Box Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. |
0:47.5 | And I'm Scott. We've got a very special guest today, someone I like very much in Silicon Valley, which is an unusual thing. |
0:54.6 | Joining us today is Reid Hoffman. |
0:57.0 | Good morning. |
0:58.1 | So we're doing a new thing on Pivot. |
0:59.8 | We're going to make people stay the whole show. |
1:01.5 | And Reed is our very first guest to do this. |
1:03.9 | We're having a really good friend of Pivot. |
1:05.9 | It's not just a friend of Pivot. |
1:07.1 | It's an extremely special friend of Pivot. It's an extremely special friend of Pivot. Reid is the co-founder of LinkedIn, obviously, the host of podcast, Masters of Scale and Possible. |
1:14.7 | He's also the author of a new book, Super Agency. What could possibly go right with our AI |
1:19.2 | future? I feel like he's positive about the future. Not on everything. Welcome, Reed again. |
1:24.4 | It's great to be here. I love being on this podcast with you guys. Good. So we're going to talk about a lot of stuff. And last time we talked was at your event right before the election, which you had participated. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. |
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