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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to insights at the edge. Today my guest is Jenna LeFlem.

General LeFlem has dedicated herself

to helping women around the world

heal emotional eating,

reach their healthy weight, and look and feel fabulous.

Her live seminars, pleasure camps, private coaching, and her online programs all teach women a natural, sustainable, and joyous approach to weight loss.

Jenna has recently published pleasurable weight loss, a guide to the secrets to feeling great, losing weight, and loving your life today.

In this episode of Insights at The Edge, Jenna and I spoke about pleasure, counterfeit pleasure versus true pleasure, what to do

when we hit pleasure thresholds and how to push ourselves further, and why some people find pleasure, scary or threatening.

We also talked about her new book, Pleasurable weight loss, and some of the provocative territory that the book covers,

including how our sexuality is linked to our weight.

Finally, we talked about pleasurable weight loss, dues and don'ts, what the payoffs are for many of us

for remaining overweight and what it might mean in Jenna's term to have an ideal ecology for pleasurable weight loss.

Here's my far-ranging conversation with Jenna LaFlem.

In one of the beginning chapters of pleasurable weight loss, you call yourself a disciple of pleasure.

What it means to be a disciple of pleasure, well my favorite interpretation of the word disciple is, or

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