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Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day

and the stuff that's even more important than politics do.

And joining me are two of the finest, finest minds from The Times and the Sunday Times,

and they are Alice Thompson. Hello, Alice Thompson.

Hi, Hugo.

How are you? And how's your fine mind?

I am in Devon, actually. I'm writing about Cougars.

I see. I mean, I didn't know. You got that many big cats in Devon. Tell me more.

Exactly, no. Well, I've done two interviews this week, but I thought the easiest thing

as it's half term is to go down to Devon and try and write them up and not be distracted.

I'm now wading my way through lots of cougal stories.

I mean, I'm going to ask,

are we talking about the kind of cougars who are popular

on certain niche areas of the internet,

or the kind of cougars you'd find in a zoo?

What do you think?

You know what, I just don't know.

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