Hey guys, welcome back to the Dad Tired Podcast. If you have yet to sign up for our annual retreat,

I really want you there and would love to have you guys sign up. Make sure you take advantage of

our early bird pricing by going to dadtired.com forward slash retreat. Really excited for our

conversation today. Before we jump in, I do want to thank my friends over at Samaritan Ministries

for sponsoring today's episode. When it comes to choosing your healthcare provider,

one of the most frustrating things can be network restrictions, but there's another way.

Samaritan Ministries is a community of Christians who actually pay one another's medical bills

without the use of insurance. As a Samaritan member, you can choose the doctors, the treatments,

the hospitals that are right for you and your family. Just consider this. A medical emergency

arises. You don't have to check with an insurance company to ask which hospital to go to. You just go.

And after care is received, your medical bills are sent to Samaritan Ministries and they'll

notify members to pray and send money directly to you to help you pay those bills. This direct member

to member sharing approach is one of the many joys of being a Samaritan member. It's filled with

cool, it's affordable and you can join today. When the body of Christ comes together to pray and

encourage and provide for one another, burdens are lifted and God is glorified. This applies to all

areas of life, including healthcare. It reminds me of the verse in Galatians 6-2 which says bear

one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. If you're interested in becoming part of this

amazing community, you can go to Samaritan Ministries.org forward slash dad tired again that Samaritan

Ministries dot org slash dad tired. Todd and Jeff super excited to be hanging out with you guys

today. I've got a lot of thoughts and questions swirling in my mind that I want to ask you guys,

but before we jump into all those kind of fun conversations, maybe just give us an update on who

you are and what you're up to these days. Yeah, so Jeff Kinley, I was a pastor for over 30 years,

...