Hello, Hidden Gems. Long time. No, see. Just kidding. We just posted something yesterday.

But today I'm back here with, again, with Dr. John Matthias, clinical and forensic psychologist,

criminal psychologist, Dr. John Matthias, our co-host, to talk again because after you and I discussed

Lori's antics in court, another video came out with the

local Phoenix CBS station. It's Arizona Family Channel 3, the reporter is Brianna, and she was able

to go in and interview Lori Valo DeBell.

And while we have heard from Lori two other times from Keith Morrison,

Dateline, as well as her own son, Colby,

we did not know or expect this third interview before opening statements on Monday.

And I quickly watched it.

I wanted you to watch it.

I sent it to you.

And I want to know your thoughts.

So full disclosure, everyone, I do not know what John thinks. He watched it. He said

he was ready and here we are. So this is like our phone call talking about it before we've talked

about it with each other. Just a note, you sent it last night at like 1130 p.m. So I'm like, okay,

it was a little too late for me to get to it last night,

but I did watch it this morning and hence here we are. What did I think of it?

Well, her tone is a lot more benign than it was with Keith Morrison. She seems to be calmer.

And she's right. Her approach is calmer and gentler than it certainly was with Keith.

With Keith, she was very combative and oppositional.

So you don't really, you're not seeing that here, which is interesting.

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