Pt. 9: Have We Misunderstood "Wives Submit"? - Women in Ministry Series

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Mike Winger

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 16 August 2022

⏱️ 189 minutes

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Summary

Many (not all) egalitarians say that the fundamental way that marriage works, in relationship to authority, has been widely misunderstood by Christians throughout history. They say that wives are not called to submit in any greater fashion than their husbands are. They say that the real biblical teaching is for "mutual submission." Today we will cover the main passages that seem to teach an authority imbalance in the marriage relationship, examine the context of each from a traditional, complementarian perspective, and then we'll spend the majority of our time going over egalitarian claims that would offer linguistic, contextual and historical reasons for why that's not what it means. They will generally say that a passage simply does not say that there is an authority imbalance in marriage, or that it does say that but it was only for a particular culture and a particular time. After years of being a bit confused about the topic of women in ministry, I set out to spend months researching the topic in great detail to produce this exhaustive teaching series on the topic. This is part 9. CLICK HERE for the playlist of ALL the videos in this series (more will be added as I make them). You can also find more videos freely available here on my website. I have other references and data in my notes from this series, which you can freely access through this website. Time Stamps: 10:36 Mike’s teaching through 1 Peter 3:1-7 30:19 Mike’s teaching through Col. 3: 18-19 35:04 Mike’s teaching through Titus 2:5 35:52 Mike’s teaching through Eph. 5: 21-33 49:23 Mike’s teaching on 1 Cor. 7:3-5 55:14 Egalitarian view of 1 Pet. 3:1-7 1:21:55 Egalitarian view of Col. 3: 18-19 1:30:45 Egalitarian view of Eph. 5: 21-36 2:40:47 The slavery objection 3:05:07 Conclusion

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0:00.0	Mowage. Mowage is what brings us together today.
0:15.4	Alright, enough silliness. Seriously though, marriage is the issue that brings us together.
0:22.4	The question we're talking about right now is does the Bible really teach us that wives
0:26.9	should submit to their husbands? This is not exactly clear enough for today. That question
0:33.8	of should wives submit to their husbands, that's not clear enough to delineate the massive
0:37.8	debate that goes on on this very topic. So while I try to shed some light on the subject,
0:44.3	I just happen to forget this term I light on, so I thought I'd get a transition there
0:48.2	huh, except that when you talk about your good transition. Alright, so does the Bible
0:52.7	really teach? Here's the question I want to target for today. Does the Bible really teach
0:56.5	that there's an authority imbalance in the marriage relationship between husbands
1:01.6	and wives and that the husband is the one who has that greater authority? That's a very
1:06.5	clear way of putting the term. So the alternative view, that's the traditional view, that's
1:11.7	what most Christians have held throughout time, but the alternative view is that egalitarians
1:16.0	are correct and not all egalitarians believe this, but a large, large number do and I would
1:20.7	argue that their views, if you hold their views consistently, then you believe this thing
1:25.1	about marriage. There are you, it would be that perhaps we've all misunderstood the
1:28.9	meaning of the Greek words in some of these verses that we use to support a husband having
1:33.9	a higher authority. Perhaps point two, perhaps we failed to notice when Paul is just talking
1:39.0	about a culturally bound and time-bound compromise of having wives submit instead of saying
1:46.4	that it was God's timeless command. So God doesn't want it for all time, it was really
1:49.7	just for a special moment and an informed person will recognize that. And number three,
1:55.2	egalitarians will also say that perhaps we've misunderstood the context of those passages
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