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Friends, today I'm so excited to share some awesome issues at the intersection between health and society.

But I've got to admit, it's gotten a bit lonely doing the show by myself. And the best thing

about podcasts is the way a conversation can flow when, well, it's not just one person. So we've

been looking to bring you that kind of back and forth. And this week, I am so excited to introduce my friend

and our new co-host, Dr. Caitlin Jettelina. Like me, Caitlin is an epidemiologist. She's also the

scientist behind the hit substack newsletter, your local epidemiologist, which, by the way, if you

haven't subscribed to, you're missing out. You really should. She's brilliant, thoughtful,

and really fun to hang out with,

which is why I'm so excited to be sharing the space with her. And let's be clear, there's going to be

a lot to cut into over the next four years. I'm so thankful to get to cut into it with her,

and I think you're going to love it. On to the show. RFK Jr., make America healthy again, the impact of deportations and tariffs on health care, and some election highlights.

This is America Dissected.

I'm your host, Dr. Abdul Al-Said.

And I'm Dr. Caitlin Jedalina, your co-host.

All right, Caitlin. It's been a week in America. And I feel like America's on a bit of a journey and we're along for the ride. I want to just sort of step back for a second. I know everybody's had some sort of reaction to this and dealt with it in their own different ways. And I have a sense of what it means

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