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Jesuitical

R.I.P. Pope Francis, feat. his fellow Jesuits Sam Sawyer and James Martin

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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On this week’s episode of “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac are joined by America magazine’s editor in chief, Sam Sawyer, S.J., and America editor at large James Martin, S.J., to discuss the life and legacy of Pope Francis, who died at the age of 88 in the early morning of April 21, 2025. He was the first pope from Latin America and the first Jesuit pope. Zac, Ashley, Sam and Jim discuss:  - Their personal encounters with the pope and how Francis impacted their priesthoods, careers and prayer life  - Pope Francis’ gifts as a pastor—and whether he will have a lasting impact on the papacy - How Pope Francis responded to criticism and sought to preserve the unity of the church Links for further reading:  - Pope Francis, trailblazing Jesuit with a heart for the poor, dies at 88 - How Pope Francis changed the place of women in the church - Pope Francis never stopped being a Jesuit - Trump, Vance and Biden react to the death of Pope Francis - A prayer for our beloved Pope Francis - Vatican releases Pope Francis’ final testament - What happens after a pope dies? - Pope Francis died after stroke and heart attack, Vatican says - Pope Francis’ funeral set for April 26, first photos of his body released - Before picking a new pope, the cardinals will politick - In last words, Pope Francis thanked his nurse ‘for bringing me back to the square’ You can follow us on X and on Instagram @jesuiticalshow.   You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/groups/jesuitical.  Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media at americamagazine.org/subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Learn more at loyola.edu forward slash theology.

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Pope Francis, the 265th successor to St. Peter, died on the morning of Monday, April 21st, at the age of 88.

0:42.8

He died of a stroke, followed by a coma and the collapse of his cardiovascular system.

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I'm Ashley McKinless, here with Zach Davis, and welcome to a special episode of Jesuitical,

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a podcast from America Media for

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Saints and Sinners. You can join us each week for honest conversations about the Catholic Church

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and our world today. The day before he died, Easter Sunday, Pope Francis surprised the world

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when he appeared on the central balcony of St. Peter's Basilica to give one final blessing to the city

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and the world. He then rode his

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jeep through a crowd of thousands of Romans and pilgrims to chants of Viva I'll Papa. His death

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comes after a month's long battle against pneumonia, including 38 days in the hospital, followed by two

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months of prescribed convalescence. The funeral mass for Pope Francis will be celebrated this Saturday, April 26th, in St. Peter's Square,

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and then he'll be laid to rest in Rome's Basilica of St. Mary Major.

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In the Pope's final testament, released by the Vatican on Monday,

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he instructed that, quote, the tomb should be in the earth, simple, without special decoration,

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and with the only inscription, Franciscus Pope Francis was born Jorge Mario Bregolillo in Buenos Aires, Argentina,

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