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The Conclave is more than a referendum on Pope Francis

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

America Magazine’s editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope. As part of the coverage, the team is producing a new podcast episode every day and releasing it on Inside the Vatican and Jesuitical. In today’s episode, the team discusses: - The funeral of Pope Francis - The cardinal’s decision to start the conclave on May 7 - The College of Cardinals by the numbers - How the conclave is (and isn’t) a referendum on Pope Francis’ pontificate Hosted by Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video, and featuring commentary from “Inside the Vatican” co-hosts Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell, Jesuitical hosts Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless, editor in chief Sam Sawyer, SJ, editor at large James Martin, SJ, and senior editor J.D. Long García. Sign up for America’s exclusive “Conclave Diary” daily newsletter and get all of our extensive coverage at: AmericaMagazine.org Links: - Conclave to elect a new pope will start on May 7 - The three surprises of Pope Francis’ funeral - Mourners from around the world flock to Rome to say goodbye to ‘pope of the people’ - Father James Martin: Don’t be afraid of the conclave—or the next pope - The papal transition: What you need to know - Cardinal Becciu will not participate in conclave following dispute over right to vote - The prayer Rome needs right now: Come, Holy Spirit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to American Magazine's coverage of the conclave to elect the 267th Pope and Bishop of Rome, the successor to Pope Francis.

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I'm Sebastian Goams, an executive editor at America Magazine, and I'm just one of many staffers from America are here on the ground in Rome to cover the conclave for you.

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We're going to be producing a podcast every day until a new pope is elected.

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And you'll be hearing the podcast in both our Inside the Vatican and Jesuitical podcast feeds.

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I'm also here with the hosts of those two shows, Colleen, Dolly and Gerard O'Connell and Zach Davis and Ashley McKinless, so you'll hear

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them from time to time on the podcast. And be sure to head over to Americanmagine.org

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where all of our news analysis coverage in print is happening. Our team here is writing

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daily conclave diaries, also doing interviews, and covering all angles of this historic moment. So we're going to start our

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episode today by bringing in Colleen Dully, who's our host of Inside the Vatican, and she's

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going to provide us with just some news of the day. What do we need to know about what happened

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today on Monday, April 28th? Sure. Today we are in day three of the nine days of morning for Pope Francis. The Cardinals are having their general congregations right now. And we heard that during today's general congregation, so these are the meetings that the Cardinals have before they go into Conclave, where first off, they plan the post funeral, they plan out some logistics. And then they discuss what the church

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needs out of the next pope. In today's, they decided on a start date for the conclave, which is super

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important. It's starting on May 7th. So they'll start with mass in the morning. Then they'll have the

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extra omness, the declaration that everybody who's not a voting cardinal needs to get out of the

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Sistine Chapel. Once they get in the Sistine Chapel, then they kick everybody out. Yep, absolutely. And then they'll have their first vote that

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evening, which is exactly how it played out in the last conclave. Now, I know that not all of the

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cardinals are here yet. So from the moment that the Pope died, obviously there are some cardinals

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who live here in Rome. They work in the Curia or doing other types of ministry. But most of the cardinals are obviously residential bishops who live around the world,

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