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Hello and welcome to the Katie Helper Show. On today's show I'm playing two interviews.

First I speak to Palestinian American journalist Rami Kuri about the Middle East.

Then I talk to Arturo Desimone and a Rubin Argentine writer who challenges the claim that October 7th was the biggest massacre against Jews since the Holocaust.

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Again, that's patreon.com slash the kat Helper Show, where you can find extended interviews,

including the full interview I do with Rami Kuri.

And here is the public portion of my interview with Rami.

Thank you so much Rami Kuri for joining us.

Rami Kuri is a Distinguished Public Policy Fellow at the American University of Beirut

and a non-resident senior fellow at Arab Center, Washington, D.C.

He's also a journalist, a prolific journalist,

and the author of several books, including most recently,

Understanding Hamas and why that matters,

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