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The Sporkful

Reheat: Can A Restaurant Be For Everyone?

The Sporkful

SiriusXM Podcasts

Arts

4.63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

"White people are comfortable anywhere," says restaurateur Andy Shallal. "In order for a black person to walk into a space, there need to be signals that say, 'You're welcome.'" In this week's show we decode those signals, which include the decor and music, the staff and other customers, and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, Dan here with another reheat for you. This episode was part of a series we did on

0:06.3

race, culture, and food called Who Is This Restaurant for? It was about these subtle and not so subtle

0:11.3

ways that a restaurant may show who its target audience is, and by extension, who it isn't.

0:16.8

Katie in Midland, Michigan, asked us to reheat this one, saying, I'm in the performing arts

0:20.5

industry, and I think of this episode often. Tabitha, another listener, also wrote it to say that this

0:25.1

series is actually what turned her into an active sportful subscriber. She writes, it was such an

0:29.2

interesting take on race and class that I never considered and helped to identify biases in myself.

0:34.2

So thank you so much to Tabitha and Katie for writing in. A reminder to all of you that if you

0:37.9

have an episode you'd like us to pull out of the deep freezer and reheat, drop me a line and send

0:41.6

me an email or voice memo at hello at sporkful.com. Tell me your first name, location, what episode

0:46.8

you want us to reheat and why. Thanks and enjoy. This episode contains explicit language.

0:57.9

Thank you. This episode contains explicit language. White people will go and discover the coolest place in the back of a trailer park.

1:03.7

They're comfortable anywhere.

1:05.6

It could be very uncomfortable for a black person in Waukinton, all-white plays.

1:10.7

It could even be dangerous. In order for a black person to walk into an all-white place. It could even be dangerous.

1:12.3

In order for a black person to walk into a space, there has to be signals that says you're welcome.

1:21.1

Every time you walk into a restaurant, you're bombarded with signals.

1:25.1

Codes that tell you what kind of place it is and whether it's for you.

1:28.9

Some signals are obvious, the food, the decor, the prices, but others are more subtle.

1:35.2

It's the uniform or lack there of that somebody's wearing.

1:38.5

It's a tablecloth that's there or not there.

1:41.1

Then there's the people working there and the other customers.

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