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The Proof with Simon Hill

Religion, spirituality and eating animals | Kameron Waters & Kip Andersen

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Education

4.92.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2024

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Episode #308. How would Jesus kill an animal? Join me as I sit down with filmmakers Kip Andersen and Kameron Waters to discuss their position on how religion and veganism intersect. Whether you are religious or not, there are many interesting points raised to reflect on further. In their new documentary Christspiracy, Kip and Kameron pose the question: is there a spiritual way to kill an animal? In this episode, they argue what they believe to be the accurate interpretation of what the Bible says about animal liberation, taking us on a journey of what the concept of dominion truly means. We discuss a 2000-year-old cover-up, whether eating meat as a Christian is hypocritical, the truth about regenerative agriculture, and much more. Specifically, we cover: Intro (00:00) Unveiling the Truth Behind Religious Misinterpretations (06:06) Exploring the Daniel Fast: A Christian's Journey to Plant-Based Eating (13:43) Connecting the Dots: The Nazarenes, Mistranslations, and Jesus' Controversial Temple Actions (19:07) The Mistranslation of Dominion and Its Impact on Western World Beliefs (25:38) Rethinking Christianity's Relationship with Animal Consumption (31:50) Exploring the Intersection of Spirituality, Ethics, and Filmmaking: A Journey of Discovery (43:52) How the Animal Agriculture Industry Influences Religious Views on Animal Consumption (50:57) Is It Possible to be Spiritual and Consume Animal Products? (1:00:47) Regenerative Farming: A Closer Look at Animal Welfare and Ethics (1:05:07) Examining the Contradictions in Joel Salatin's Ethical Farming Practices (1:12:27) How Different Religions Approach the Consumption and Killing of Animals (1:25:51) Making "Christspiracy": How to Create an Engaging Film About Killing 70 Billion Animals (1:33:42) Outro (1:39:27) Learn more about Christspiracy at https://www.christspiracy.com/. Connect with the Christspiracy community on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and TikTok. This episode is brought to you by: InsideTracker If you want to improve your health, you need to measure where you’re currently at. InsideTracker analyses up to 48 blood biomarkers including ApoB, LDL, HDL, A1C, and more before giving you advice to optimise your health. Get a 20% discount on your first order at insidetracker.com/simon. Eimele Eimele Essential 8 is a comprehensive multivitamin that is scientifically formulated to complement your plant-rich diet, increase and sustain your energy, and support the immune system, as well as heart and brain health. Head to Eimele.com and use code SIMON at checkout for 10% off your first order. 38TERA Consider 38TERA's DMN-01 prebiotic supplement a daily multivitamin for your gut. Formulated by yours truly and gastroenterologist Dr Will Bulsiewicz. Use code THEPROOF for a discount at checkout. WHOOP Whoop, the most advanced fitness and health wearable available. Your personalised fitness and health coach to recover faster, sleep better, and train smarter. Claim your first month free on join.whoop.com/simon. Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also show your support by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and/or sharing your favourite episodes with your friends and family. Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube or listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Nourish your gut with my Plant-Based Ferments Guide Download my complimentary Two-Week Meal Plan and high-protein Plant Performance recipe book

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0:00.0

Is there a spiritual way to kill an animal or more bluntly how would Jesus kill an animal?

0:07.0

So much of the Western world is based on Christianity and patriotic values.

0:12.0

If you find out the entire foundation has been a mistranslation and it's gone skewed and then

0:17.0

we can re-correct that.

0:18.7

The domino effect of what it will mean even though it happened 2,000 years ago, it'll transform.

0:23.4

What does it mean to really be a Christ follower or a Christian?

0:26.4

This film isn't bashing any religion.

0:28.1

There's maybe all these things they don't agree on about divinity, about heaven and

0:32.1

nirvana and this and all these conversations that you could argue about but one core

0:36.4

piece that unites all of them is this we shouldn't be unnecessarily killing other beings.

0:42.3

Today I sit down with Cameron Waters and Kip Anderson to discuss their new film, Christ conspiracy.

0:48.0

What would Jesus do?

0:50.0

Would he condone the slaughter and consumption of animals. I'm not religious, far from it.

0:55.8

I mean, I have heard of Jesus Christ and God of course, but that really is the extent of my knowledge.

1:01.9

It's good to know your limitations, right? but that really is the extent of my knowledge.

1:02.5

It's good to know your limitations, right?

1:04.8

However, given that there are more than 3 billion Christians

1:07.3

worldwide who follow the teachings, qualities,

1:09.8

and spirit of Jesus Christ,

1:11.4

I do think this is a very interesting question to ponder.

1:15.8

In this conversation we discuss groundbreaking discoveries related to religious texts,

1:20.4

whether or not one can be Christian slash spiritual and eat meat and much more.

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