Hello, everybody.

I'm a host Jake, Zenzheny.

I host, the multi-family mentor, the coach, the chef, the father,

sticks, the best-selling author, The G-Dady.

Gino Barber, June, how's it going?

Jake, I'm doing great, brother.

How you doing?

Always making it happen, big man.

Today's guest has a real estate career that spans over four decades.

Gina, I think that's 40 years.

It's a long time.

Currently serves the CEO of Quinn Residences, a real estate operating company,

where he continues to use his expertise

to create inclusive communities that enhance resident lives. Sounds like the chick fillet of

Bill to rent, build for rent, which is it? I don't know. So without further ado, Richard Ross,

the boss. Welcome the show. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Jake. Thanks, Gino. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

Hey, it's our pleasure. So before we got on, we did a podcast and, no, Gino was trying to like ask all these questions. And I want to hear the real story. So five years ago, you got into Build for Rent. Tell us a little bit about your real estate career before that and then that transition, please.

Sure. So I've been in this business 40 years. First 10 is sort of a financial guy and then got into real estate in the early 90s when all of the big real estate companies you know today, the big

public companies that own all, what, half the apartments in this country were formed.

And so my background is both public and private, real estate operating companies from multifamily apartments, if you will, and then grocery anchor shopping centers.

And I've been involved, as I said, both at the public and private level. The build to rent

thing started almost five years ago when a guy I had run a company for approached me and said,

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