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Rerun: #533 Hua Hsu (May 2023)

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🗓️ 3 January 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Hua Hsu is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His book Stay True won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize for memoir. “I've worked as a journalist … for quite a while. … But this [book] was the thing that was always in the back of my mind. Like, this was the thing that a lot of that was in service of. Just becoming better at describing a song or describing the look of someone's face—these were all things that I implicitly understood as skills I needed to acquire. ... It is sort of an origin story for why I got so obsessive about writing.” Show notes: @huahsu byhuahsu.com Hsu on Longform Hsu on Longform Podcast Hsu's New Yorker archive 03:00 A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure Across the Pacific (Harvard University Press • 2016) 30:00 "Randall Park Breaks Out of Character" (New Yorker • Feb 2023) 33:00 Shortcomings (Adrian Tomine • Drawn & Quarterly • 2007) 39:00 "What Conversation Can Do For Us" (New Yorker • Mar 2023) 39:00 "J. Crew and the Paradoxes of Prep" (New Yorker • Mar 2023) 39:00 "The Many Afterlives of Vincent Chin" (New Yorker • Jun 2022) 39:00 "How Wayne Wang Faces Failure" (New Yorker • Jun 2022) 39:00 "Maxine Hong Kingston’s Genre-Defying Life and Work" (New Yorker • Jun 2020) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom

0:04.8

influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white

0:09.5

women falsely accuse people of color of crimes usually fixates on the accuser, the so-called

0:14.6

Karen.

0:15.6

But for this series we focus on the innocent couple at the heart of this story.

0:19.6

I just want the public to know what she did was wrong.

0:23.8

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen,

0:26.2

available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, welcome to the long form podcast. I'm Aaron Lamer and it's rerun season, which is why I'm here by myself.

0:47.6

Happy New Year. This episode was taped last year in May 2023.

0:51.7

It's one of my favorite interviews of the year with Hua Shu, talking about his book Stay True, which I try not to say what the best book of the year is, but this book stayed with me like no other book I read last year.

1:06.8

Maybe not surprisingly, it's about his college years at UC Berkeley.

1:11.2

It's a memoir. I grew up in Berkeley. So like I'm in the background of this book.

1:16.7

Brought out a lot of nostalgia for me, but also it's a book that kind of

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investigates the nature of nostalgia and memory and how we remember people.

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Really, really recommend it.

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Thanks again to Hua for this interview.

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Thanks to everyone over at Vox Media who help us produce this show and we'll

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be back with a new episode next week. Now here is me with Hua Chu. Welcome to the podcast for your second appearance, Hua Shu.

1:58.0

Great to be back.

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I'm now saying what number appearance when people come in the show just so that if I have to go back and listen to this I've

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Hard-Coded this information for myself

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Who holds the record just like curiosity? Not that it's a competition but I'm just curious.

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