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🗓️ 3 January 2024
⏱️ 43 minutes
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0:00.0 | In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom |
0:04.8 | influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white |
0:09.5 | women falsely accuse people of color of crimes usually fixates on the accuser, the so-called |
0:14.6 | Karen. |
0:15.6 | But for this series we focus on the innocent couple at the heart of this story. |
0:19.6 | I just want the public to know what she did was wrong. |
0:23.8 | In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen, |
0:26.2 | available now wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, welcome to the long form podcast. I'm Aaron Lamer and it's rerun season, which is why I'm here by myself. |
0:47.6 | Happy New Year. This episode was taped last year in May 2023. |
0:51.7 | It's one of my favorite interviews of the year with Hua Shu, talking about his book Stay True, which I try not to say what the best book of the year is, but this book stayed with me like no other book I read last year. |
1:06.8 | Maybe not surprisingly, it's about his college years at UC Berkeley. |
1:11.2 | It's a memoir. I grew up in Berkeley. So like I'm in the background of this book. |
1:16.7 | Brought out a lot of nostalgia for me, but also it's a book that kind of |
1:21.5 | investigates the nature of nostalgia and memory and how we remember people. |
1:27.1 | Really, really recommend it. |
1:29.2 | Thanks again to Hua for this interview. |
1:31.6 | Thanks to everyone over at Vox Media who help us produce this show and we'll |
1:36.7 | be back with a new episode next week. Now here is me with Hua Chu. Welcome to the podcast for your second appearance, Hua Shu. |
1:58.0 | Great to be back. |
2:00.0 | I'm now saying what number appearance when people come in the show just so that if I have to go back and listen to this I've |
2:08.0 | Hard-Coded this information for myself |
2:11.0 | Who holds the record just like curiosity? Not that it's a competition but I'm just curious. |
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