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All There Is with Anderson Cooper

Revisiting Ashley Judd: Grief, Love and Naomi

All There Is with Anderson Cooper

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Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

When Naomi Judd died by suicide in 2022, after a long struggle with mental illness, her daughter Ashley found her. In this deeply moving, revealing, and insightful conversation Ashley Judd talks about the trauma she has worked hard to face, the grief she now feels, and how her mother’s spirit is still very much alive in her life. Visit the All There Is online grief community at cnn.com/allthereisonline Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to All There Is, I'm Anderson Cooper.

0:03.0

I'm on vacation this week with my kids, and I'll be celebrating Thanksgiving.

0:07.0

I've mentioned this before on the podcast, but after my brother Carter died, my mom and I stopped recognizing holidays.

0:14.0

Christmas, Thanksgiving, it was all just too painful.

0:18.0

I know for many of you listening right now, this week may be tough.

0:23.2

I just want you to know that you're not the only one who feels that way.

0:27.2

I'm going to be enjoying being with my kids this week, but any holiday is also a reminder of the people I love who aren't here.

0:35.1

I'll have an all-new episode of the podcast next week. What follows is an episode

0:39.4

from last season. It's my interview with Ashley Judd. Let's get started. The past is never dead.

0:49.8

It's not even past. William Faulkner wrote that in his novel Requiem for a nun, and my mom liked to quote it a lot. I found an addendum of sorts to it online recently, a quote by a writer named Greg Isles from his book, The Quiet Game. I want to read it to you because I think it speaks to grief in a powerful way.

1:10.6

Isles wrote, Faulkner said the past is never dead.

1:14.2

It's not even past.

1:16.0

All of us labor in webs spun long before we were born,

1:20.1

webs of heredity and environment,

1:21.7

of desire and consequence of history and eternity.

1:26.4

Haunted by wrong turns and roads not taken,

1:29.3

we pursue images perceived as new,

1:31.3

but whose providence dates to the dim dramas of childhood,

1:35.3

which are themselves but ripples of consequence

1:38.3

echoing down the generations.

1:40.3

The quotidian demands of life distract from this resonance of images and events, but some of us feel it always.

1:48.0

The past has felt especially present to me these last few weeks.

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