From The Advocate Magazine, I'm Jeffrey Masters, and you're listening to LGBTQ and A.

Today I'm talking to the filmmaker River Gaiyo. We talk about his new film, Pony Boy, as well as about being intersex.

River explains how intersex bodies are objectified by the medical community and how much anger there is from that.

He also says that while intersex might sound new to us, there are records of intersex people dating back to the Greeks.

So that is coming up.

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I don't usually do this, but I find that so few people are familiar with what intersex means.

Yes.

Do you mind just explaining what intersex is and defining it for us?

Yes, for sure.

So intersex is an umbrella term that encompasses many conditions in which

physiologically or genetically, one's body doesn't typically fit under the definitions of male

or female. And it's about as common as having red hair, about one in 2000 babies are

born intersex. I mean, I said that many people don't know

intersexes but I guess you tell me like is that correct yeah completely unfamiliar with intersex

I mean even in the LGBTQIA community people are unaware of it which is like I don't know it's

it's kind of sad actually um it's just because don't know, it's, it's kind of sad, actually.

It's just because it's so common. It's like, you know, if it's every time you see a person with red hair on the street,

that means you probably've seen a person, you'd probably walk by a person on the street

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