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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 274 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Marine Le Pen has been banned from running for the French presidency after this week's bombshell court ruling finding her guilty in a huge embezzlement case. But does she have any chance of a comeback? And could the far-right win the presidency without her? This week we're discussing the earthquake in French politics, as well as Europe's space ambitions. Plus, a delightful interview with Greek podcaster and hungry man Thom Ntinas, about what ancient Europeans ate. Thom is the host of The Delicious Legacy podcast. Find it here, or wherever you're listening to this. Thanks for listening. After some rather troubling financial news this week, this independent podcast needs your support more than ever. If you enjoy our work, we'd love it if you'd consider supporting us. You can chip in to help us cover the weekly research and production of The Europeans at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (many currencies are available), or gift a donation to a super fan here. We'd also love it if you could tell two friends about this podcast! This podcast was brought to you in cooperation with Euranet Plus, the leading radio network for EU news. This week's Inspiration Station recommendations: @forkranger on Instagram and 'How Stockholm Stuck' from Radiolab. 00:33 Damn clocks03:43 Good Week: Marine Le Pen's enemies20:36 Bad Week (?): The Spectrum rocket launch33:59 Interview: Thom Ntinas on what the Ancients ate46:27 The Inspiration Station: @forkranger and 'How Stockholm Stuck'49:55 Happy Ending: The best place to lose your wallet Producers: Morgan Childs and Wojciech Oleksiak Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina YouTube | Bluesky | Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Mastodon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | [email protected]

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0:00.0	This podcast has been produced in cooperation with Uranet Plus, the podcast that tries to have a moderate amount of fun while
0:41.3	untangling the perpetual mess that is Europe. This is Katie in Paris. And that one is Dominic
0:47.7	in Amsterdam. Hello, that one. Hi, this one. I love moderate fun. That's what we live for,
0:53.1	moderate fun. How are you doing over there?
0:55.0	I'm fine. Yeah, trying to do everything in moderation, including moderation.
1:00.5	Ooh, I don't know what that means. I remember someone once said it to me, try and do everything
1:05.7	in moderation, including moderation, which I like. It's like, do everything a little bit, but sometimes
1:10.5	don't. Be radical when you need to be. Yeah. Okay, I like it. It's like, do everything a little bit, but sometimes don't. Be radical
1:11.3	when you need to be. Yeah. Okay, I like it. Cool. How are you? Well, I'm recovering now, but I had a
1:17.2	terrible shock class weekend. This was the first weekend in my adult life where I didn't realize
1:23.6	the clocks were changing. Oh, no. I got up on Sunday, what I thought was 7am, because
1:28.0	that's what my phone said, and then at some point, after a couple of hours, thinking,
1:32.5	Jesus, I'm really tired. I looked at the oven, and the time was wrong, and it's now multiple
1:38.7	days later, and I still feel really tired. Like, why do we continue to do this? I thought Europe had decided to
1:45.7	stop all the clock-changing nonsense. You're jet lagged. Apparently so. An hour can make a big difference.
1:51.0	They say people have more heart attacks and traffic accidents on these days, don't they?
1:55.1	I'm really feeling it this year. So, remind me, the EU did decide to stop this ridiculousness, right?
2:02.4	Yeah, we talked about this. I mean, we've been making this podcast for so long that I believe
2:06.2	we discussed the exciting plan back in 2018 for Europe to end the clock changes.
2:12.9	Like, there was a public consultation, millions of Europeans backed the ending of this thing, the parliament voted
2:19.6	to end it, but then it turned out that some countries were opposed to it, and now we're just
2:23.8	kind of not doing that. We're still doing the clock changes. I used to quite like the changes,
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