Alex, question. Are you a safety first or a safety third kind of climber?

I think I'm probably more a safety first kind of climber than people might think.

I think people maybe think of me as safety last,

but I think I'm pretty close to safety first. I don't think your safety last, maybe second.

Yeah, safety second. Is that a type of climber? I don't know. Could be. No, I think I'm pretty

safe climber, except for when I choose to do things that are relatively unsafe. I'm curious whether you think it's possible to ever be a totally 100% safe climber.

Like, for instance, anytime you open up a guidebook or you buy a new piece of gear,

there's always a warning label that says climbing is an inherently dangerous activity,

etc.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, no, I think it's basically possible to be a safe climber.

It just depends.

I mean, climbing is so broad.

It's true that there is inherent risk in climbing, but I think it's easy to go an entire

lifetime as a climber without having any

serious accidents. Yeah. So this week on the roundtable, we're going to tackle safety. And

what does that word even mean? Is it possible to be a climber and be safe? Alex, who's going to

join us for this week's roundtable? This week have pete dakeda who is the editor of

accidents in north american climbing he's also a long time well lifelong climber who's done a little bit

of everything throughout his his i hate to call him old but you know throughout his long career as a

as a veteran outdoor rock climber and he's really seen the sport change over the years

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