Alex, how would you describe your aesthetic, your style?

Well, do you mean style like fashion, in which case I would say drab?

But if you mean style isn't climbing, I would say joyous, I don't know.

I mean, just fun. Do I even have a style?

Maybe controlled. People say I move with, you know, very static. Yeah. I don't know. I just remember reading about Barack Obama where he only owned three suits so that he never had to make a choice. You know, like it was like basically all the same suit every day. And he's like, I will waste no time or no mental energy on picking this suit. Like, it's on brand. And I know it's going to be. Yeah, I actually do exactly the same thing. My style is I have, I have indoor clothes and outdoor clothes. And they're always exactly the same for weeks on end, and you don't have to wash them

because your indoor clothes stay clean, and your outdoor clothes stay dirty, and you just, you know, when you go

outside, you put in your outdoor clothes, and that's it. I know you have the tuxedo that you wore at your

wedding and at the Oscars, but do you have, like, do you have date night clothes? Does that even come in? I literally don't own anything that wasn't given to me by the North Face.

Or maybe given to me by random friends along the way or like swag from events or something.

But no, I can basically say that I've never spent any money on apparel.

Because I just, why would you? It just seems crazy.

Yeah. I think if I had to describe your style, though, like in general, if there was an overlap, I'd be, like, pragmatic minimalist.

Where, like, I don't know.

You're like, actually, no, my style is Darrell leaked.

You remember from Zoolander.

Of course.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

Right on.

So early this year, you and I were talking about Sean Villeneueva O'Driscoll and Nico Favres,

and you made the point that you really liked their style, and that sometimes you wish you were doing things in the way they were doing.

And what about them intrigues you? Like,

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