Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. It is Wednesday. So if you're looking for some political chatter or you want to hear some takes on the Minnesota state senator who tried to make Trump derangement syndrome and official

mental illness in the state of Minnesota.

And then a few hours later was caught in a sting trying to have sex with the 16-year-old

girl.

Hmm.

That was truly such a shame.

Too bad.

Tough break for that guy.

If you want to hear more about that that over on the next level it's

wednesday so go go check out the next level download that podcast feed wherever you get your

podcast it'll be up late wednesday but we're going to focus on serious matters here

legal matters and i'm delighted to have with me the editor-in-chief of lawfare and senior

fellow in governance studies at the brookings institution also the author of Dog Shirt Daily in a Dog Shirt as we speak. It's Ben Wittis. Good to see you. What's happening, man?

Welcome back. So good to be here. Yeah, how's the lawfare traffic these days, website traffic?

Kind of the chart go up. It kind of look like the Ethereum stock chart a little bit, maybe.

Yeah, the worst things get, the better it is for us. And so, you know, we're always have mixed

feelings about doom and gloom democracy-wise, because it's good for business. I talked about

this with Jessica Charloff yesterday. Do you have any kind of emotional hedge? Do you have any issues,

any therapy that you need to do or about this natural inclination to kind of get a little

excited when something absolutely terrible happens for this administration because you're

kind of rooting against America. Do you have any issues with that

you're dealing with? I actually struggle with this a lot because I am by inclination, deeply,

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