When I say software supply chain, I mean the actual supply chain for software itself, like your code, your dependencies, the build process, the build system, all of that stuff.

So I got into this space probably about four or five years ago now when I was working at Google, right?

I was at Google for about nine years before starting chain guard.

The first project I did in open source kind of outside of Google's internal world

is called MiniCube.

It's the official way to get like a Kubernetes cluster running on your laptop.

And it came time to actually do a release of this thing.

There was no kind of good, sensed, secure way to do a build of this program that the entire

community was basically downloading and running his route on their laptops.

My name is Dan Lawrence, and I'm a co-founder and CEO at Chainyard.

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Cote Story. Dan Lawrence got into tech in a roundabout way. Most of his time in school was

dedicated to the study of mechanical engineering,

building in the world of atoms and machine shops and with 3D printers. He learned how to

program through Matlab and he got hooked. He lives in Austin, enjoys taking in the live music scene

and likes to get outdoors when it's not 108 degrees like it was when we did this recording.

While Dan was at Google, the well-known solar winds attack happened,

illustrating the gaps and holes in the software supply chain space.

Given he had experience in this area,

paired with the Biden administration's executive order to secure this space,

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