Sam Wells: Being With
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler
Everything Happens Studios
4.8 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2024
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
How do you stay close to someone whose pain you can’t fix, whose questions you can’t answer? In this episode, Kate sits down with her dear friend, the Rev. Dr. Sam Wells, a longtime advocate of “being with,” a theology that goes beyond advice and into the sacred space of simply staying. Sam–vicar at London’s St.-Martin-in-the-Fields, an astonishingly wise thinker, and one of Kate’s favorite people on Earth–invites us into a deeper courage: to show up without trying to tidy things up.
In this beautifully honest conversation, Kate and Sam talk about:
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Why love can be so hard
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What it means to let go of the need to “help”
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The surprising beauty of just… showing up.
For everyone exhausted by easy answers, this episode is a hand to hold in the dark.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Rushmastajani, founder of Girls Who Code. Look, I'd consider myself a pretty successful |
| 0:06.8 | adult woman. I've written books, founded two successful nonprofits, and I'm raising two incredible kids. |
| 0:13.7 | But here's the thing. I still wake up wondering, is this it? And if the best years are yet to come, when's that going to start? Join me on my |
| 0:25.0 | so-called midlife, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, where we're building a playbook for navigating |
| 0:31.2 | midlife, one episode at a time. Each week, I'll chat with extraordinary guests who've transformed their midlife crisis |
| 0:39.3 | into opportunities for growth and newfound purpose. At some point, we all ask ourselves, |
| 0:47.2 | is there more to life? I'm here to discover how to thrive in my second act, right alongside you. |
| 0:57.0 | My so-called midlife is out now, |
| 1:05.3 | wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kulapvilaysock, and I'm Sujim Pock, and we're your aunties on Ad to Cart, a podcast all about the things we buy, the things we buy into, and what |
| 1:10.1 | that says about who we are. |
| 1:11.8 | We're real-life friends who love to talk about what we're adding to cart. |
| 1:16.1 | Sometimes that means trying the latest snail serum to slather on our faces. |
| 1:20.8 | Or a sweater that screams one-third ugly. |
| 1:23.8 | That's right, Sue. |
| 1:24.4 | Each week we dive into honest, oftentimes TMI conversations about what's taking up space in our shopping carts and in our minds, be it products, trends, or something for our Auntie Book Club. |
| 1:34.6 | We also bring guests on the show and take a peek into their carts because the things a person buys or doesn't says a lot about them. |
| 1:41.3 | We like to think of ourselves as Auntie's to all. Fun, slightly unhinged, |
| 1:46.6 | and always ready to share some sage advice and a good product wreck. Add to Cart is out now, |
| 1:53.1 | wherever you get your podcast. How do you be a friend to someone who's going through something you cannot fix? |
| 2:05.7 | I'm Kate Bowler and this is Everything Happens. |
| 2:09.7 | One of my colleagues turned dear friends wrote an article I've never forgotten. |
| 2:15.3 | He had just heard that our other colleague, Richard Hayes, and I had both just received |
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