Wilma Derksen: Living with What You Cannot Change
Everything Happens with Kate Bowler
Everything Happens Studios
4.8 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2024
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
There are some realities we can never get over. And yet, we keep living. How do we do that well? Wilma Derksen writes and speaks on the topics of victimization and criminal justice. Her wisdom is hardwon. In the mid-80s, Wilma’s daughter, Candace, was murdered. Their family’s response to this tragedy has inspired so many people…and you’ll soon see why.
In this conversation, Kate and Wilma discuss:
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How we live with the things we cannot change
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What does forgiveness look like in practice
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How to start forgiving yourself
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Malcolm Gladwell on whether people can change
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CW: murder of a child
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Rushmastajani, founder of Girls Who Code. Look, I'd consider myself a pretty successful |
| 0:06.8 | adult woman. I've written books, founded two successful nonprofits, and I'm raising two incredible kids. |
| 0:13.7 | But here's the thing. I still wake up wondering, is this it? And if the best years are yet to come, when's that going to start? Join me on my |
| 0:25.0 | so-called midlife, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, where we're building a playbook for navigating |
| 0:31.2 | midlife, one episode at a time. Each week, I'll chat with extraordinary guests who've transformed their midlife crisis |
| 0:39.3 | into opportunities for growth and newfound purpose. At some point, we all ask ourselves, |
| 0:47.2 | is there more to life? I'm here to discover how to thrive in my second act, right alongside you. |
| 0:55.0 | My so-called midlife is out now, wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:00.9 | Hey, everyone, it's David DeKovny. |
| 1:03.4 | Do you ever feel like a failure? |
| 1:05.2 | Trust me, I get it. |
| 1:06.8 | Hell, I've spent my whole life almost feeling like a failure. |
| 1:12.5 | It's appropriate, though, |
| 1:17.9 | because on Fail Better, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, exploring the world of failure, |
| 1:23.9 | how it holds us back, propels us forward, and ultimately shapes our lives is the whole point. |
| 1:30.5 | Each week I'll chat with artists, athletes, actors, and experts about how our perceived failures have actually been our biggest catalysts for growth, revelation, and even healing. Through |
| 1:36.9 | these conversations, I hope we can learn how to embrace the opportunity of failure and fail |
| 1:42.0 | better together. Fail better is out on May 7th, wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 1:48.9 | There are some realities we can never get over. |
| 1:52.7 | The grief of losing someone you thought you could never live without. |
| 1:56.3 | The loss of some abilities, maybe as you age, or maybe illness or disease or tragedy, took |
| 2:02.7 | them from us. The lightness we used to live with before, before we knew that life could just |
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