Secrets, Lies, and the Price of Truth: The CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou | Part 2

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Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Phil continues his raw conversation with ex-CIA officer John Kiriakou.

In this gripping continuation of Dr. Phil’s deep-dive with former CIA officer turned whistleblower John Kiriakou, Part Two unpacks the personal, political, and psychological consequences of speaking truth to power.

From the realities of the Whistleblower Protection Act to the inside story of how Kiriakou exposed the CIA's use of enhanced interrogation techniques—this episode goes far beyond headlines.

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0:00.0	CIA is not supposed to collect any information at all on American citizens ever.
0:06.5	They say that they don't.
0:08.4	I want to believe that they don't, but I really don't know.
0:23.1	Okay, thanks so much for joining me.
0:27.6	For all you true crime fans out there, a new season of my podcast, Mystery and Murder Announce this by Dr. Phil is out.
0:30.6	We have been gone for a little while, but we are back bringing you some really cutting-edge stories.
0:36.6	My goal is for every one of these stories
0:39.3	to add something to your understanding
0:41.3	about some of these monsters that walk among us.
0:44.3	The heartbreaking case of Gabby Petito,
0:47.3	whose life was tragically cut short by her boyfriend,
0:51.3	Brian Launders.
0:52.3	How could a pair living so-called perfect lives
0:56.0	be hiding such dark secrets,
0:58.1	getting to know Gabby,
0:59.5	while diving into the psychology
1:01.5	of unhealthy relationships,
1:03.5	were there red flags?
1:05.2	Mystery and Murder, analysis by Dr. Phil.
1:08.0	His promise of till death do Us Part seems pretty chilly.
1:11.5	Available on Apple Podcast and YouTube.
1:15.3	You guys all remember that story.
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