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Inside the Hive

Selling Guns, Drugs, and Murder on the Dark Web

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2018

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Should it be legal to sell mild drugs, like weed and magic mushrooms, on the Internet? What about heroin? Handguns? AR-15s? Even murder-for-hire? Nick Bilton sits down with Tom Conrad, former product director of Snap and co-founder of Pandora, to discuss Nick's book, “American Kingpin;” if Silicon Valley CEOs are moral at heart, or more concerned with their profits and their legacy; and if Ross Ulbricht, the founder of the Silk Road website, is any different from other CEOs in tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're up.

0:02.0

What do you say?

0:05.0

Welcome to Inside the Hive.

0:09.0

Welcome to Inside the Hive with Tom Conrad.

0:12.8

No, you're supposed to say, I am your host.

0:14.3

Fuck me dead.

0:14.7

We're just keep, we're not stopping.

0:18.3

I know, clearly.

0:19.2

So let's explain what's going on here this week.

0:21.8

So, Tom Conrad, that's you, that's me, is

0:26.4

hosting the show, your host, and I am gonna be the guest and what are we talking

0:30.0

about? Who are you? I'm Nick Bilton. You're Nick Bilton. And we are talking about your book,

0:35.0

book, American King Pen.

0:36.6

Yeah, that's, you got the title, right?

0:38.0

Which is good.

0:39.0

It is one of the few books I've read in the last couple of years, it was you know that was helpful when you asked if I would be willing to do this

0:45.0

Which is out in paperback it is out in paperback this week and

0:51.0

We're just gonna talk about that and technology and its role in society and so I'm going to give you a I'm going to give everyone a little primer on you Tom Conrad so Tom started his career at did you start at pet's dot com?

1:05.0

No Apple.

1:06.6

Apple okay

1:07.7

same thing

1:08.7

considerably better

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