I am Sarah Jane Case and this is Ennagram and coffee.

Hello friends, happy Friday.

Today I am talking with Sam Greenberg, Sexuality Researcher and Coach, as well as

Lindsay Frazier, a licensed marriage and family therapist and a certified sex therapist and

we're talking about, I think you might have guessed sexuality

and the iniagram I am so excited I've been following both of them on Instagram

for a hot minute now and I'm obsessed with their content I reached out and was like can you please come on the podcast?

So Sam and Lindsay welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having us.

Thank you.

So let's start with the history of sexuality

and the anagram.

Like, how did we get into this?

How did this start?

Okay, so there's not that much of a history of this topic which is why folks listening may not know that much about it.

Basically there's a couple of books over the past you know decade or so that I've just

barely touched on it and mostly from kind of a

theoretical perspective like the N-A-Gram relationships and intimacy by David Daniels and

Suzanne Dion that has some chapters on text, sex, love in your personality, and the

Enneagram and Love and Work by Helen Palmer. Like they all mention it some, but

there hadn't been a lot of conversation at least that we knew about in the any of the

any of the community about this and there's there definitely been no research

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