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My cast away this week is the educationalists, Sir Ken Robinson.

Creativity, how to nurture it, develop it, and martial its power is his preoccupation.

He believes that too many people have no sense of their true talents and passions

and his internationally renowned talks to teachers, business and government leaders

argue that contrary to popular myths, creativity and innovation can be developed

in a deliberate and systematic way.

What we need he thinks is a learning revolution.

His own air audition began in a crowded house on Marysyside in the fifties,

full of visitors, noise and laughter.

His front door was just a hundred yards from Everton Football Club,

but his boy who dreams of playing for the blues were devastated when he contracted polio.

The first of seven siblings to pass the 11-plus and win a scholarship to one of Liverpool's best schools,

his education would fundamentally shape the rest of his life.

He says, if a teacher hadn't seen something in me that I hadn't seen in myself,

my life might have gone in a very different direction.

So, Ken Robinson, you've also said that if you're not prepared to be wrong,

you'll never come up with anything original.

Why do you think it's so important to be original?

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