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very much for downloading the Scotland Outdoors podcast I'm Mark Stephen and with me today

new to the podcast Kim McCallister hello hello how are you I'm very well thank you I'm very

well you better explain what your background is I'm a journalist although I don't tell a lot of

people that.

People react badly.

But I also have a media company.

I've been on my own here now for 10 years.

I've had my media company.

Well, we are delighted to have you.

Thank you.

I am sure you may have thoughts about a subject dear to my heart.

See if you can guess what it is.

Is it working?

So far we've had some good feedback.

She's a surprise.

You might want to answer that in a different way.

Quite unintentional.

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