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First Things Podcast

Stoics and the Modern World

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Spencer Klavan joins Mark Bauerlein to discuss his foreword and translations for the new book “Gateway to the Stoics: Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations, Epictetus’s Enchiridion, and Selections from Seneca’s Letters.” Music by User:Quinbrid (Luigi Boccherini) via Creative Commons. Track cropped.

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0:00.0

Spencer Claven is with us today. He is one of the editors of the Claremont Review of Books and the features editor of the American Mind.

0:20.4

He also hosts the Young Heretics podcast. the Claremont Review of Books, and the features editor of the American Mind.

0:24.6

He also hosts the Young Heretics Podcast.

0:26.0

I'm going to interrupt quickly.

0:28.8

How do people get to the Young Heritage's podcast, Spencer?

0:36.4

It's available wherever fine podcasts are sold, so Apple, Spotify, anywhere else that you get your podcasts. So today, he has a forward to a handy new edition from Regnery of writings by three Stoics, Marcus Aurelius,

0:47.3

Epictetus, and Seneca.

0:49.2

That is our topic for the next 30 minutes.

0:52.5

Welcome, Mr. Clavin.

0:54.2

It's such a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.

0:57.1

This volume also contains actually an introduction by Russell Kirk, who says that the Stoics

1:05.4

gave the more thoughtful Romans at the time a sane version of freedom and civic order, in spite of all the decadence

1:16.3

going around them, and the spiritual collapse. Spencer, is that where we are today?

1:21.8

It's certainly close. I mean, once you start drawing comparisons between the kind of environment in which Stoicism most flourished and our moment, there's really more and more there, the closer you look in.

1:37.7

In my foreword, I start out by talking about the Hellenistic era, which is when Stoicism got its start, started to come into prominence. And that, like

1:46.7

ours, was a time of political fracture, inability to reach a cultural consensus. There had been

1:55.8

a sort of heyday in Athens not long before when it felt as if perhaps this was the intellectual

2:02.1

center of the world and maybe even was going to attain some kind of political dominance

2:08.5

over the Mediterranean. That fell apart in the Peloponnesian War and at the same time,

2:13.1

so did the unity of philosophy that really had kind of started to take shape from first through

2:20.8

Socrates and then Plato and Aristotle. There's kind of this through line and then there's this

2:25.8

splintering of the world that's really nicely mirrored between both people's philosophy and the

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