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What do you think about when you think about AI?

Maybe chatbots giving you new lasagna recipes, research assistants, helping you finish that paper.

Do you think about machines taking your job?

Maybe you think of something even more ominous, like Skynet robots wiping out humanity.

If you're like me, you probably think of all those things, depending on the day. And that's sort

of the point. AI is not well understood, even by the people creating it. And even though

we all know it's a technology that's going to change our lives, that's really all we know at

this point.

So how do we confront this uncertainty?

How do we navigate the current moment?

And how do we, the people who have been told that we will be impacted by AI but don't seem to have much of a say and how the AI is being built

engage in the conversation. I'm Sean Elling and this is the gray area. I'm Sean Elling. And this is the gray area. Today's guest is Jaron Lanier.

He's a virtual reality pioneer, a digital philosopher, and the author of several

best-selling books on technology.

He's also one of the most profound critics of Silicon Valley

and the business model driving it.

I wanted to bring Jaron on the show

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