Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bale of Jesse Thorn. This week, Sue

Sheff, Natalie brings the case against her sister, Juliana. When they lived together

last winter, they came up with a left-overs cooking challenge in order to limit their

trips to the grocery store. Juliana thinks that Natalie is too stingy with what they

call creativity points. But Natalie says the challenge is more fun when it's harder to

score. Who's right? Who's wrong? Only one can decide. Please rise as Judge John

Hodgman enters the courtroom and presents his obscure cultural reference.

This was a random audition. I'm like, what's it about? Cupcakes? Okay. At least this will

not be picked up, but we made 120 of them. People assume I'm a baker. I've never baked a cupcake.

So, this is now about reestablishing myself and my passion for the Judge John Hodgman

podcast. Bale of Jesse Thorn. Sue, I have a little to you can send please. Natalie and

Juliana, please rise and raise your right hands. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole

truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God or whatever? I do. I do. Do you swear

to abide by Judge John Hodgman's ruling despite the fact that he's never made me anything

from left-overs? I do. I do. Judge Hodgman, you may proceed to make me something from

your left-overs. I had some leftover coleslaw. I made some very nice spicy coleslaw over

the weekend. Oh, that sounds great. Is it a mayo slaw or a vinegar or a vinegar-only

slaw? It's a little both. A little cider vinegar, a little mayonnaise, and I used whole grain

pomegranate mustard. Oh, that sounds great. Whole grain pomegranate mustard. Oh, I'm

sorry. Natalie and Juliana, you may be seated for an immediate summary judgment in one

of your favors. Can either of you name the piece of culture that I referenced? You have

a guest, Juliana, you're on the top of the conference call as it happens. I wanted it

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