Our friend Rob Gearing may not be an international man of mystery.

He's a bit too passionate and outspoken for that.

He's hitting my ear-

I would agree with that.

But I do think, as I've've said before that you may just be the

most interesting man in the world. Well I would like to think that but I'll

take it's a huge compliment. Well it's meant that way and you have just introduced me in the last couple days to Mark Wheeler, who may be the man behind the most interesting man in the world. He's been a big part of bringing Spartan to success.

Is that correct?

Well, I would say, Josie, if a huge part, I would actually go as far as saying we wouldn't

be sitting around this table today if it

hadn't been about my dear friend Mark. Well that's fantastic so Mark thank you

for joining us here today on the show it's been a real pleasure to make your

acquaintance. It's been great meeting you Joseph and I'm happy to be here it's going to be

fun now before we dive right into hearing about you and your part in the you know

the behind the scenes making Spartan, enabling Spartan to be a success.

Do you mind if we just go completely off topic and hear about your recent bushcraft, your airplane crash?

That I think is a sort of thing that would really fascinate our listeners.

I'm sorry to kind of blindside you with that.

No, no.

Six months ago, you were in a crash that you nearly died in, yes?

Yes.

As you might expect, I've spoken about it before,

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