Watch the full conversation with Lily and Harrison here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/susan-abulhawa-118196391 Palestinian writer ("Mornings in Jenin") and activist Susan Abulhawa discusses Israel's latest crimes as well as the Oxford Union debate in which she participated on whether "Israel is an apartheid state responsible for genocide." Susan and Katie will show and discuss the portions of Susan's truly epic speech that Oxford censored. Then Katie is joined by Lily Greenberg Call, a former special assistant to the chief of staff at the Department of Interior and the first Jewish political appointee to resign from the Biden administration in protest of U.S. policy in Gaza and Harrison Mann, a former US army major and executive officer of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Middle East/Africa Regional Center who also resigned in protest of his office’s support for Israel during its Gaza campaign. Susan Abulhawa is an award-winning Palestinian-American writer, human rights activist and animal rights advocate. Her first novel, Mornings in Jenin, was translated into 32 languages and sold more than a million copies, making her the most widely read Palestinian author of all time. Her second novel, The Blue Between Sky And Water, was sold in 19 languages before its release, and was published in English in 2015. Against the Loveless World, her third novel, was released in August 2020, also to critical acclaim. Susan is the founder of the NGO Playgrounds for Palestine and and Palestine Writes, the only North American literature festival dedicated to celebrating and promoting cultural productions of Palestinian writers and artists. Lily Greenberg Call is a former special assistant to the chief of staff at the Department of Interior. She has nearly a decade of experience in politics, movement organizing, and domestic and international human rights work. She worked on Vice President Kamala Harris’ 2020 primary campaign and President Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign and served in the Biden administration until May 15, 2024, when she became the first Jewish political appointee to resign in protest of U.S. policy in Gaza. Lily has appeared as a guest on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, and given commentary and written articles for The Washington Post, Politico, The Guardian, and Truthout. She holds a B.A. in Political Science and Public Policy from the University of California, Berkeley. Harrison Mann is a senior fellow at Win Without War and a former U.S. Army major and executive officer of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Middle East/​Africa Regional Center who resigned in protest of his office’s support for Israel during its Gaza campaign. He previously served as a Middle East all-source intelligence analyst and led a crisis cell coordinating intelligence support for Ukraine. Prior to DIA, he worked at the U.S. Embassy Tunis Office of Security Cooperation and led Army Civil Affairs teams combatting regional smuggling under U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) in Bahrain. Harrison began his Army career as an infantry officer. He received a B.A. from the College of William & Mary and a Master in Public Administration from the Harvard University John F. Kennedy School of Government. Link to Susan Abulhawah's Oxford speech: • Nov. 28, 2024: Susan Abulhawa present... Link to learn about and donate to Floyd Bennett Field Neighbors, who is raising funds for relocation of hundreds of families: https://www.fbfneighbors.org/ **Please support The Katie Halper Show ** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - https://patreon.com/thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: @kthalps