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Hey everybody, welcome to the Bob and Friends podcast.

I'm so glad you're with us.

I hope it's been a terrific week.

And again, the favorite thing to do is to bring some friends new and old on this podcast so that you can have another angle

on somebody doing interesting things using their gift set and with the hopes that you'll use

yours, that you'll take the next courageous step. You'll write the letter, write the books,

sing the opera, like whatever it is,

but that you don't stay in the state of pre-contemplation.

I'm thinking about that.

I'm thinking about that, too, to say, take a step forward.

And one of the people that have been important voices in my life is Ryan Whitaker-Smith,

which is such a great name. I just like it all. Ryan, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks, Bob. Thanks for having me. I love the Ryan Whitaker part and the Ryan Smith part. Tell me how

you use those to distinguish what it is that you're doing, like which microphone you're speaking into at

the time? Well, the very simple explanation is that Ryan Whitaker makes films and Ryan Whitaker

Smith writes books. I just try to make it as confusing as possible for people to keep up

with me, I guess. Yes. And from a guy named Bob and a guy named Smith, we need to have some distinguishing

characteristics.

I know this.

I have several email addresses.

One is info at Bob Goff.

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