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🗓️ 23 March 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

During his first term, President Trump and Jeff Bezos openly sparred with each other. During this second administration, though, it seems like Bezos is trying to endear himself - and his companies - to the White House. So what changed? Guest: Dana Mattioli, reporter for the Wall Street Journal and the author of The Everything War: Amazon’s Ruthless Quest to Own the World and Remake Corporate Power. Special thanks to David Maraniss. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Today's episode is sponsored by Smart Travel, a new podcast from NerdWallet.
0:06.5	Want to travel like a savvy jet setter? No, that doesn't mean a monogrammed passport case.
0:11.8	It means making smart decisions every step of your trip, which means knowing your options.
0:17.2	Smart Travel unpacks the facts, like which booking sites actually save money, how to fly first class using points, and if that fancy travel card is a smart investment.
0:27.4	All so you can save more on your next adventure.
0:30.5	Stay tuned at the end of the episode to hear the smart travel trailer.
0:34.6	And be sure to follow smart travel from NerdWallet so you can start traveling like a pro.
0:41.5	Today's episode is sponsored by Smart Travel, a new podcast from NerdWallet. Want to travel like
0:47.9	a savvy jet setter? No, that doesn't mean a monogrammed passport case. It means making smart
0:53.3	decisions every step of your
0:55.1	trip, which means knowing your options. Smart travel unpacks the facts, like which booking
1:00.7	sites actually save money, how to fly first class using points, and if that fancy travel card
1:06.2	is a smart investment. All so you can save more on your next adventure.
1:14.4	Stay tuned at the end of the episode to hear the Smart Travel trailer.
1:19.4	And be sure to follow Smart Travel from NerdWallet so you can start traveling like a pro.
1:30.7	David Marinus started his career at the Washington Post in 1977.
1:32.8	Ben Bradley was the editor.
1:40.4	Within a year, I was working with Bob Woodward, who was becoming the Metro editor.
1:43.8	I covered Maryland politics to start with. Since then, David won a Pulitzer Prize for his
1:47.2	coverage of Bill Clinton, wrote a ton of newspaper stories and 13 books. One of those about the
1:53.4	Vietnam War was also a Pulitzer finalist. What I'm getting at here is that to people like me,
2:00.0	he's a legend.
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