TBD | Trump's War on Scientific Research

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🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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The National Institutes of Health is the primary engine of biomedical research around the world, which makes the Trump administration's dramatic cuts to its grant program both confusing and potentially incredibly harmful. Guest: Katherine J. Wu, staff writer for the Atlantic. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:41.5	Today's episode is sponsored by Smart Travel, a new podcast from NerdWallet. Want to travel like
0:47.9	a savvy jet setter? No, that doesn't mean a monogrammed passport case. It means making smart
0:53.3	decisions every step of your
0:55.1	trip, which means knowing your options. Smart travel unpacks the facts, like which booking
1:00.7	sites actually save money, how to fly first class using points, and if that fancy travel card
1:06.2	is a smart investment. All so you can save more on your next adventure. Stay tuned at the end of the
1:12.3	episode to hear the smart travel trailer. And be sure to follow smart travel from NerdWallet
1:17.4	so you can start traveling like a pro.
1:26.2	Two weeks ago, Professor Jace Flatt got a letter from the National Institutes of Health about his federal grant money.
1:33.0	It said, this award no longer effectuates agency priorities.
1:39.5	Jace Flatt is one of many researchers who had a grant terminated by the NIH.
1:45.6	That's Catherine Wu, who writes about science for the Atlantic.
1:49.1	She spoke to Flat.
1:50.3	He's an associate professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, who studies aging and dementia in LGBTQ people.
1:57.5	And actually, in his case, it was multiple grants. The last I heard from him, it was two grants,
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