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WTF is on my Mind?!

The 4th "F" (FAWNING) with Dr. Ingrid Clayton

WTF is on my Mind?!

Mark Vicente

True Crime, Film, Society & Culture, Documentary, Nxivm, Cult, Philosophy, Narcissistic Abuse, Tv & Film, Psychology, Television, Narcissism, Coercion, Coercive Control

4.8706 Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2023

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

In this episode: Have you ever felt ashamed of how you went along with an abuser for months, maybe even years, even though a part of you knew the situation was toxic? That's known as FAWNING. This episode will help demystify that very normal trauma response. Dr. Ingrid Clayton will help us to understand the 4 F's (Fight, Flight, Freeze and FAWN) while discussing her own story and aspects of the NXIVM Cult. Ingrid Clayton, PhD is a writer and clinical psychologist in private practice in Los A...

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0:00.0

My name is Mark Viscente.

0:07.0

I'm a director, producer, writer, and troublemaker.

0:11.0

I'm not totally certain if the trouble finds me or I find it.

0:16.0

I'm most known as the director of the film What the Bleep Do We Know?

0:20.0

And as one of the Nixium whistleblowers featured in the HBO series, The Vow.

0:24.6

Let's just say I know a thing or two about cults.

0:28.6

I don't consider myself a cult expert, but I'm definitely an expert in being screwed over,

0:34.6

waking up, and knowing how to spot them. And let me tell you, they're everywhere.

0:41.7

As you'll hear, I have a pretty salty approach to most things, and I'm utterly fascinated by the

0:47.3

patterns in human behavior that create the best and the worst in society. I'm part geek, part rebel,

0:55.2

and pissed off about a whole bunch of things.

0:58.6

Join me as I unpack a whole range of topics

1:01.3

to do with psychology, spirituality, consciousness, morality,

1:05.3

cults, narcissistic abuse, science, filmmaking, and philosophy.

1:13.0

You never quite know what you're going to get,

1:16.8

as it really does depend on what the fuck is on my mind.

1:30.2

Hello, everybody. I have the distinct pleasure of talking with someone today that I met last week in person for the first time. Dr. Ingrid Clayton, who has written this amazing book,

1:37.1

Believing Me, Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma. Check this book out. Dr. Clayton. Yes, thank you. So I so much

1:48.1

want to talk to you because of a conversation we had last week about fawning. Yeah.

1:54.0

The fourth F, I'm calling it. Yes. The fourth F. But what I want to do, I never want to assume my audience

2:00.1

knows everything about

2:01.2

everything. Can you just fill us in a little bit about, you know, who you are, how you came

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