Author, Speaker, Whistleblower and award-winning Director Mark Vicente was behind the sleeper hit “What The Bleep Do We Know?!” Several books have been written about the film’s remarkable grassroots marketing campaign, which led to its unprecedented success.
Mark was born in Johannesburg, South Africa in 1965. Taking his first photograph at age four, he quickly discovered his passion for being behind the camera. After attending film and drama school in South Africa, he began working his way up the ranks of the camera department, from Assistant to Operator to Cinematographer. His first big break came as Director of Photography on the musical “SARAFINA,” starring Whoopi Goldberg. In 1992, he set his sights on Hollywood and relocated to Los Angeles to shoot his first studio picture for Disney; “FATHERHOOD,” starring Patrick Swayze and Halle Berry. At the age of 26, he became one of the youngest cinematographers to shoot a big-budget studio picture.
Over the next few decades, he went on to shoot an additional 14 feature films and numerous documentaries, music videos and commercials. Mark soon found there were in him, untold stories he desperately wanted to express as a Director. He was driven by the conviction that tales of greatness, nobility and introspection could be exciting and financially successful.
Perhaps because of the very obvious race and class iniquities in South Africa, he found himself propelled to question certain fundamental assumptions at a very young age. Beliefs about human behavior, cosmology, religion, existentialism and mysticism. Along the way, he stumbled into a few situations where leaders with malignant pathologies (masquerading as saintly philosophers) spoke the talk of self-improvement but did untold damage to their followers... and him.
Looking back, he can now say he has been in at least two cults. His last foray into personal growth and his defection from NXIVM was chronicled in the HBO series “The Vow”. Mark and a few plucky whistleblowers exposed the criminal activities of the organization, resulting in multiple arrests and indictments. He doesn’t consider himself a cult expert, but by his own admission, “I’m an expert in being screwed over, waking up, and knowing how to spot them.” He’s got a pretty salty approach to most things and is fascinated by the myriad patterns in the human psychodynamic that create the best and the worst in civilization.
Join Mark as he unpacks a whole range of topics to do with: Psychology, Consciousness, Morality, Narcissistic Abuse, Spirituality, Cults, Propaganda, Science, Filmmaking, and Philosophy.You never quite know what you’re going to get, as it really does depend on… WTF is on his mind?!
In this episode, Mark Vicente unpacks the concept of self-sealing systems — those airtight ideological loops used in cults, extreme religious groups, and even political tribes to block out dissent and lock members deeper into belief. Drawing from his own lived experience in NXIVM (aka ESP), Mark explains how these systems use circular logic, linguistic reframing, and fear-based conditioning to keep followers compliant and questioning outsiders. He explores: The emotional traps of “being at ca...
Transcribed - Published: 20 April 2025
In this expletive laden and unfiltered solo episode, Mark Vicente dives deep into the subtle, insidious ways abusive individuals and systems exploit our longing to grow, reflect, and “be better.” He explores the psychological unraveling that happens when introspection is hijacked to suppress personal agency. Drawing from his lived experience in NXIVM, Mark unpacks how coercive groups often encourage relentless self-examination not to empower, but to disable. The more you question yourself, t...
Transcribed - Published: 13 April 2025
What happens when truth becomes your only option for survival? In this unfiltered, emotionally honest conversation, filmmaker and whistleblower Mark Vicente sits down with Josh Connolly—a resilience coach and breathwork facilitator who’s spent over a decade helping people reconnect with their inner truth after trauma. Josh talks about growing up in a dysfunctional home, breaking out of addictive roles, and how society at large mirrors the same toxic family dynamics we try to escape. They al...
Transcribed - Published: 6 April 2025
In this powerful and revealing episode, filmmaker Mark Vicente sits down with Dr. Karen Mitchell, founder of the Kalmor Institute and the author of one of the most groundbreaking PhD theses ever written on dark personalities. https://kalmor.com.au/ https://x.com/karenmitchell__ Karen shares the results of decades of research and direct experience, unveiling a chilling but deeply important truth: narcissists, psychopaths, Machiavellians, cult leaders, toxic executives, and coercive controlle...
Transcribed - Published: 28 March 2025
In this solo episode, filmmaker and truth-seeker Mark Vicente shares what’s been stirring in his mind—from the deeply personal to the culturally explosive. He starts with an exploration of dignity—what it is, why it matters, and how it’s the missing ingredient in many conversations about boundaries and self-respect. Through stories and personal insight, he dives into the internal work required to reclaim one’s worth, especially after experiences of coercive control, narcissistic abuse, or cu...
Transcribed - Published: 23 March 2025
In this deeply insightful and unfiltered conversation, I speak with return guest Africa Brooke. Africa is a writer, speaker, and thought leader known for her work on self-censorship, self-sabotage, and personal transformation. The discussion explores the tension between speaking one’s truth and navigating societal pressures, tribalism, and ideological conformity. Africa and I challenge listeners to reflect on their beliefs, fears, and the cost of authenticity in today’s world. This episode is...
Transcribed - Published: 16 March 2025
In this eye-opening episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I sit down with Coach Liliya Labonte, a specialist in narcissistic abuse and healing, to uncover a rarely discussed topic: the female narcissist. Unlike their male counterparts, female narcissists operate in uniquely insidious ways, leaving many victims questioning their reality. Together, we explore: ✔️ The key differences between male and female narcissists ✔️ The subtle (and not-so-subtle) signs to watch for ✔️ How to protect yourself an...
Transcribed - Published: 23 February 2025
In this episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I dive deep into Communal Narcissism—the most deceptive and dangerous form of narcissism. Unlike grandiose or covert narcissists, communal narcissists hide behind morality, altruism, and social justice, using a façade of selflessness to manipulate and control. I break down: The three faces of narcissism: Grandiose, Covert, and CommunalWhy communal narcissists thrive in cults, religions, charities, and politicsHow they manipulate people’s need for goodn...
Transcribed - Published: 16 February 2025
In this episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I explore the concept of ideological infection—the psychological trap where we become so emotionally attached to our beliefs, movements, or public figures that any challenge to them feels like a personal attack. I break down why this happens, from cognitive biases like confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to the fight-or-flight response triggered when our worldview is questioned. I also dive into the five steps to break free from ideological captur...
Transcribed - Published: 2 February 2025
In this episode of WTF is on My Mind?!, I sit down with Dr. Jaime Zuckerman, a licensed clinical psychologist and national expert in narcissistic abuse. We dive deep into the insidious nature of narcissistic relationships, the misconceptions surrounding narcissism, and what makes narcissistic abuse so earth-shattering for its victims. Dr. Z shares her insights on how to heal from narcissistic abuse, the playbook of narcissists, and the emotional toll these relationships take. This is a powerf...
Transcribed - Published: 26 January 2025
In this episode: I explore the concept of suppression and how it affects us personally, in families, and on a societal scale. We explore how suppressing ideas, emotions, and beliefs can lead to fragmentation and toxicity. Drawing from personal insights, psychological observations, and real-world examples, I discuss the dangers of censorship, fear-based control, and the societal consequences of suppressing inconvenient truths. Suppression and censorship in personal, family, and societal contex...
Transcribed - Published: 27 December 2024
In this episode: I talk to two incredible women who are leading the charge to redefine how we think about and legislate consent—Joyce Short and Nina Lucas of the Consent Awareness Network, or CAN. If Joyce Short gets her way, both “Yes Means Yes” and “No Means No” will be stricken from our laws. She is a sexual assault survivor and the author of 4 books that can turn our human right to consent into a civil right backed by law. She is the founder and Chief Executive of the Co...
Transcribed - Published: 22 December 2024
In this episode: How my film, "What the Bleep Do We Know?!" led to a weird encounter with a clinical psychologist on a yacht. My eventual induction into NXIVM and my confusion about Keith Raniere's 'Sex Den'. I talk about death anxiety, power dynamics, and the behavior of leaders who claim to have achieved a higher state of consciousness yet engage in questionable practices. Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official ...
Transcribed - Published: 8 December 2024
What happens when the subconscious drags you back into the cult you’ve left behind? In this episode, I share a vivid dream where I was back in the cult—a surreal journey that left me reflecting and exploring the parallels between my dream and the troubling patterns I see in the world today. This episode isn’t just about a dream; it’s about what the dream represents. It’s about confronting the relationships between my cult experiences and the societal “rules” that feel eerily similar, and unpa...
Transcribed - Published: 24 November 2024
In this episode: I use the comic, Asterix and Obelix as a metaphor to explore societal beliefs and the consequences of questioning established norms. I talk about how the fear of the sky falling and the invention of the 'special helmet' mirrors contemporary issues of belief and conformity. Also, we talk shit about the skydeniers and the anti-helmets. Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podca...
Transcribed - Published: 3 November 2024
In this episode, I explore the concept of fear-based manipulation and control, discussing how fear and trauma have historically been used to bind individuals to leaders, ideologies, and movements. I reference key thinkers like Matthias Desmet and Hannah Arendt, providing historical examples such as the Cultural Revolution in China, Stalin's Great Purge, and the Salem witch trials. I emphasize the role of media in shaping perceptions of fear and the psychological dynamics of coercive control a...
Transcribed - Published: 27 October 2024
Former Hollywood actor, David Sutcliffe discusses his journey of self-discovery, transitioning from acting to somatic therapy, and the struggles of authenticity and identity. He talks about the role of pain in healing, the complexities of the victim mentality, and the acceptance of both good and evil within ourselves. The conversation emphasizes the importance of emotional awareness and personal growth, highlighting the challenges and rewards of facing one's inner darkness. We delve into the ...
Transcribed - Published: 20 October 2024
In this episode: Richard Grannon and I delve into the complexities of ideology, exploring its definitions, psychological impacts, and its relationship with beliefs. We discuss the nuances between having beliefs and being ideologically captured, the role of utopianism in ideology, and how these concepts relate to cult dynamics and narcissism. We also touch on the importance of developing an internal locus of control and the personal journey of understanding one's beliefs and ideologies. ...
Transcribed - Published: 13 October 2024
In this episode: Peter Boghossian and I delve into the complexities of belief systems, the importance of open dialogue, and the role of education in shaping our understanding of the world. We discuss the challenges posed by ideological capture, the significance of epistemology, and the need for civil discourse in a polarized society. Throughout the discussion, we emphasize the importance of acknowledging mistakes, the dangers of clinging to beliefs, and the necessity of curiosity and humility...
Transcribed - Published: 4 October 2024
My Thoughts on Cult Mentality and Moral Dilemmas – Alison Mack, NXIVM, and Beyond In this episode: I dive into some deep and personal reflections about the dangers of avoiding moral questions, both in cults and in society at large. Drawing from my own experiences with NXIVM, I talk about Alison Mack, her attempts to question her role, and how Keith Raniere manipulated her into silence. I also explore how this same kind of gaslighting happens beyond cults – in politics, social movements, and...
Transcribed - Published: 22 September 2024
In this episode: I sit down with Richard Grannon to dive deep into the power and relevance of the Socratic Method in today's polarized world. Building on themes from my previous episode "The Rage of the Empath" we explore how critical thinking, open dialogue, and intellectual humility can help us navigate complex issues and conflicting viewpoints. Socratic Method: We unpack the ancient Greek approach to dialogue, where both parties must first fully understand each other's positions before en...
Transcribed - Published: 23 August 2024
The Dangers of Intolerance: Culty Behavior in Today's World In this episode, I delve into the unsettling parallels between cult behavior and the current climate of intolerance we see online and in society. Drawing from my experiences as a whistleblower against NXIVM and my understanding of manipulative dynamics, I explore how rigid ideologies and "thought policing" mirror the very patterns of control used by cults. Key Points Discussed: Cults and Boundaries: How cult leaders establish unspo...
Transcribed - Published: 16 August 2024
In this episode: I ruminate on the lack of justice in certain situations, specifically focusing on a disturbing case involving a trainer at a gym. The trainer engages in manipulative and predatory behavior, including blackmailing clients and sharing explicit videos without consent. Despite clear crimes being committed, law enforcement has been unresponsive. Also BTW - The contrast between the trainer's charming facade and his conscienceless actions is mind-boggling. Note: A few details have ...
Transcribed - Published: 11 August 2024
In this episode: I retell the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Anderson. Drawing parallels to our modern society, I explore concepts such as cognitive dissonance, cultic behavior, gaslighting, mass delusion, and the sunk cost fallacy. There are dire consequences for speaking the truth in a society that values conformity and obedience. I question the manipulation of public opinion and the suppression of dissenting voices. 00:00 Introduction 02:27 The Emperor's New Cloth...
Transcribed - Published: 28 July 2024
In this episode: I continue my discussion with Producer/Writer Adam G. Simon - about A.I. this time. We look at the ethical implications of A.I. and the lack of regulations and ethical constraints in its development. Adam discusses the state of Hollywood, describing it as a corrupt industry driven by money and power. He explores the impact of A.I. on storytelling and expresses his worries about the loss of creativity and the homogenization of content. We discuss Nolan A.I. - a creativ...
Transcribed - Published: 18 July 2024
In this episode: I talk to Adam G. Simon, a screenwriter, producer, and actor. We discuss Adam's background as a bodyguard and close protection specialist, his experiences in the Mormon Church, and his journey of leaving the church. We also touch on the investigations department within the church and the control it exerts over its members. We explore themes of abuse, manipulation, and the fear of leaving a religious community. Adam discusses his journey from Mormonism to questioning and...
Transcribed - Published: 7 July 2024
In this Episode: I chat with Richard Grannon about the concept of narcissistic psychopathy and its impact on power structures and society. He delves into the characteristics of narcissistic psychopaths, their delusional and power-hungry nature, and their ability to manipulate and control others. The discussion highlights the dangers of narcissistic psychopathy becoming the dominant influence in societal structures and the need for cynicism and resistance. It also touches on the role of fantas...
Transcribed - Published: 30 June 2024
In this episode: A conversation with Professor of Evolutionary Psychology, Edward Dutton. We cover a wide range of topics, including the seminar on Narcissistic Psychopathy we just completed, the background of Professor Dutton, discussions on autism, the concept of heresy, controversial views, the adaptive nature of religion, and the influence of intelligence on manipulation and societal dynamics. The conversation delves into the societal shift towards dogma, the psychology of giving power to...
Transcribed - Published: 23 June 2024
In this episode: I interview Rob van Vuuren, a comedian and actor known for his character Namaste Bae. We discuss the origins of the character, the comedy scene in South Africa, and the dangers of certainty and cult-like behavior. Rob shares how he uses comedy to process the absurdity and insanity of everyday life. We also touch on the global appeal of alternative healing and the importance of vulnerability in comedy. Rob discusses his experiences as an artist and comedian, particularly in re...
Transcribed - Published: 14 June 2024
In this episode: I discuss the concept of the goodness trap, where people become so attached to the idea of being good that they ignore or justify bad behavior. I explore how this trap can be seen in various contexts, such as political extremism, cults, and the protection of institutions. I also highlight the danger of virtue signaling and the need for individuals to critically examine their own ideological teams and actions. I encourage listeners to engage in nuance and self-reflection rathe...
Transcribed - Published: 7 June 2024
In this Episode: Author, Lecturer & Behavioural Scientist Patrick Fagan and I delve into the topics of brainwashing, propaganda, manipulation, and the impact of psychological tactics on behaviour. We explore the influence of communication, media, and societal forces on individuals, as well as the role of trauma and vulnerability in susceptibility to manipulation. The discussion also touches on the concept of the 'blip' and its role in creating vulnerability, as well as the use of psycholo...
Transcribed - Published: 31 May 2024
Brave Expression in the Age of Intolerance with Africa Brooke Beyond the Self - with Africa Brooke releasing cult-like thinking and rigid identities w/ Mark Vicente Identical News Montage The Corporation Film Narcissistic Psychopathy: A Global Dark Force. 25th & 26th of May in Liverpool, UK Gary Brecka Decoding Cults & Narcissists with Mark Vicente and Richard Grannon Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official...
Transcribed - Published: 4 May 2024
KINGDOM ANIMATED SHORT https://www.lubomirarsov.com/ IN SHADOW Beyond The Self with Africa Brooke - releasing cult-like thinking & rigid identities - with Mark Vicente The conversation between Mark Vicente and Lubomir explores the creative process, the power of visual storytelling, and the challenges of staying true to one's artistic vision. They discuss the importance of depth and emotional resonance in art, as well as the resistance and criticism that often arise when pushing bounda...
Transcribed - Published: 19 April 2024
AFRICA BROOKE Preorder Africa's Book: The Third Perspective: Brave Expression in The Age of Intolerance (out May 2024) An open letter: why I'm leaving the cult of wokeness by Africa Brooke Course with Richard Grannon DECODING CULTS & NARCISSISTS Other Podcasts with Africa Triggernometry - They've Weaponised Guilt and Shame Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - A Change of Heart Towards Jordan Diary of a CEO - Victimhood & Self-sabotage Is Destroying The World This conversation between M...
Transcribed - Published: 9 April 2024
In this episode: I tell a story written by Herman Charles Bosman about an unfortunate incident between a black African warrior and a white Afrikaans soldier. Vuzamazulu Credo Mutwa Herman Charles Bosman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaffir_(racial_term) Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not intended...
Transcribed - Published: 29 March 2024
DECODING CULTS & NARCISSISTS https://www.richardgrannon.com/narcissistic-cults-decoded-course In this episode: I wandered into a Cathedral in Lisbon and asked a question on social media: "Taking a Sunday trip down memory lane. I have so many complex thoughts and feelings in cathedrals like this. A mixture of awe, sadness and outrage. Perhaps it’s worth a podcast episode. How do you feel in spaces like this?" I got thoughtful and emotional responses and wanted to record my feelings and t...
Transcribed - Published: 21 March 2024
NARCISSISTIC CULTS DECODED https://www.richardgrannon.com/narcissistic-cults-decoded-course In this episode: Sarma Melngailis goes deep with me on the deception she experienced with con-man ‘Mr. Fox’, what people don't understand about coercive control, the problems with media, and her healing journey. “If I’d had any involvement in her case, she never would have gone to jail.” - Evan Stark, sociologist, forensic social worker, author 'Coercive Control: The Entrapment of Women in Per...
Transcribed - Published: 8 March 2024
In this episode: I speak with actress, writer, producer, classical pianist, singer, and songwriter, Lucy Walsh. We discuss her new book 'Remember Me As Human', her crazy life as the daughter of Joe Walsh (The Eagles), and her escape from what she calls a high-control group in the heart of Hollywood. https://www.instagram.com/thelucywalsh/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/acting-coach-gloria-gifford-accusations-toxic-conservatory-1235152816/ The views and opini...
Transcribed - Published: 17 February 2024
In this episode: I share with Diane Bell, Sundance Award- Winning Director how she helped me regain my hope and creative fire after the NXIVM debacle. https://www.dianebell.com/ https://www.instagram.com/aimfromtheheart1/ https://www.instagram.com/shootfromtheheart1/ Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not...
Transcribed - Published: 23 January 2024
This is a follow-up to the previous episode "The Slippery Slope of Ideology" - Reading listeners' answers to the question: "What is the antidote to the information control that inflames the US and THEM-ing?" - Talking to Rick Ross after leaving NXIVM - The Socratic Method - One possible ANTIDOTE - There are more than TWO choices Andrew Gold - Heretics Richard Grannon Support the show on PATREON Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily refl...
Transcribed - Published: 19 January 2024
In this Episode: Key moments that opened my eyes to NXIVM. Cult leaders seem to be cut from the same cloth because they have the same pathology. Thoughts on my social media posts. Some people want me to vilify specific political groups. Why I won't. Patterns are everything.The slippery slope of ideological trenches.New Course: RECLAMATION www.markvicente.com/courses 20 Diversion tactics highly manipulative Narcissists Sociopaths and Psychopaths use to silence you. ~ Shah...
Transcribed - Published: 9 January 2024
RECLAMATION COURSE In this episode: Who are you being told to hate? World Triangulation Glorification of War A Soldier's StoryMoral InjuryTalking to a soldier I was supposed to kill German WWI veteran describes killing a French soldier in a bayonet charge From @bullfrogboss8008 patreon.com/markvicente Music: Origins by Daniel Deuschle Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of t...
Transcribed - Published: 9 December 2023
In this episode: NXIVM, Gladiators, CIA, Tin Foil, Public Relations, and taking down the little runt. patreon.com/markvicente CIA Dispatch: https://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-memo-1967-cia-coined-weaponized-label-conspiracy-theory/5822801 Sign up for news about my new film at: www.empathynotincluded.com Empathy not Included - Social Media Accounts: Instagram Facebook Tik Tok X Music: Origins by Daniel Deuschle Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! d...
Transcribed - Published: 1 December 2023
In this Episode: Self-hatred as a misguided attempt towards enlightenment. The polarization between the body and the spirit in spiritual groups and teachings. patreon.com/markvicente Sign up for news about my new film at: www.empathynotincluded.com Empathy not Included - Social Media Accounts: Instagram Facebook Tik Tok X Music: Origins by Daniel Deuschle Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of t...
Transcribed - Published: 18 November 2023
In this Episode: - Cognitive Dissonance. - The scientific method vs. a deeply vested need for a particular answer. - A simple formula to understand why many deny obvious evidence right in front of them! - Turning RED flags Pink. Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or Mark Vicente. Any content provided by guests are of their opinion and are not intended to malign an...
Transcribed - Published: 23 September 2023
SPOILER ALERT: I will be giving away major plot points of the movie 'Oblivion'. In this Episode: Tom Cruise plays Jack Harper in this 2013 sci-fi movie directed by Joseph Kosinski. The irony of Tom Cruise playing a character who wakes up inside an AI cult and then helps take it down. The NXIVM 9 were like the 'Scavs' Jack thinks are the enemy. Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast or ...
Transcribed - Published: 20 August 2023
In this Episode: Ever been around someone who seems to correct or criticize everything you do? Do you have that person in your life that you feel you need to be really careful around? As though there are land mines everywhere. You have to tip-toe very carefully through their rules and regulations. They live with an ideology in their head that can become authoritarian in its intolerance. Support the show The views and opinions expressed on WTF is on my Mind?! do not necessarily reflect the off...
Transcribed - Published: 6 August 2023
In this Episode: Guy Pearce talks about why he reached out to me. We had an amazing, deep, and honest conversation covering cults, groups, his fascination with The Vow, and his take on acting and being human. Guy Pearce was born October 5, 1967 in the UK to Margaret Anne and Stuart Graham Pearce. His father was born in Auckland, New Zealand, to English and Scottish parents, while Guy's mother is English. Pearce and his family initially traveled to Australia for two years, after his father wa...
Transcribed - Published: 23 July 2023
In this Episode: I talk to Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle, Clinical Psychologist and Board President of Seek Safely. https://www.seeksafely.org SEEK SAFELY is an organization that: Educates the public about the self-help industry. Empowers consumers of personal and professional development.Promotes professional standards in this $11 Billion/Year unregulated self-help industry. Seek Safely Podcast https://seeksafely.podcastpage.io/ Dr. Doyle https://www.instagram.com/d...
Transcribed - Published: 9 July 2023
In this Episode: Filmmaking can do extraordinary things... move people to the greatest heights and the deepest depths of themselves, and it can also be weaponized. Russian Cinema. Lev Kuleshov explains juxtaposition. Hitchcock waxes on about the power of editing. Using editing and omission to perform character assassination. The power of music to play the human instrument. Filmmakers know how to get the audience to feel anything they want. Romanticizing Psychopathy. The Empire and the Rebell...
Transcribed - Published: 20 June 2023
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