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The Big Leap

The 90-Second Reset with Dr. Joan Rosenberg

The Big Leap

Gay Hendricks & Mike Koenigs

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Freedom, Decisions, Mental Health, Business, Relationships, Genius, Education, Success, Beliefs

5707 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

60 million Americans are affected by mental health issues. One in five will experience mental health issues within a given year, according to the National Institute of Mental Health.

The good news is: you don’t have to stay stuck, sad, lonely, frustrated. You don’t have to feel useless or lost. The pain of that will pass - and it may pass quicker than you think.

I’ve known Dr. Joan Rosenberg for 15 years. When I am in a rut, or I feel stagnant or stuck, I talk to her. She is a bestselling author and a captivating public speaker, an all around amazing person who is excellent at what she does.

Joan offers an essential tool and 4 step framework I think will be beneficial for your entrepreneurial mental health toolkit. 

  • The 90-Second Rule: Bodily sensations associated with difficult feelings are often what we try to avoid. But, we can lean into them, accept that it will pass in 90 seconds or less, and then we experience them more fully and move through them.


  • Express Authentic Emotions. Both Dr. Rosenberg and Gay Hendricks stress that suppressing or "transmuting" emotions, such as masking sadness or disappointment with anger, can be detrimental. Gay shares that one of his clients experienced a huge breakthrough when he was able to acknowledge the source of his anger. 


  • It takes strength to ask for help and acknowledge limitations. Success is rarely achieved alone.  Even the military prioritizes assessing needs and limitations and calling for support when necessary. Embrace vulnerability and build the support systems necessary to go the distance! 


Not only is Joan a brilliant psychologist, she’s a bestselling author, and a captivating public speaker. Her experience and expertise make her Mental Health Framework essential for any entrepreneur.

Listen to Big Leap with Gay Hendricks and Joan Rosenberg, PhD.

Time Stamps
[ 0:00:00-0:00:11]

  • People are experiencing a LOT of stress right now, financial, physical, natural disasters. It’s taking a toll on mental health - including members of Mike’s family. 
  • Mike welcomes Gay back to the podcast after a challenging year of medical issues, including broken bones.

[0:02:47-0:12:54]

  • Joan introduces the 90-second rule: feelings are transient and dissipate within 90 seconds. It’s the physical sensation we try to avoid, not the breadth of the feeling itself. 
  • There is a brilliant connection between the 90-second rule with Gay’s book "The Ten Second Miracle," focusing on the importance of understanding and mapping bodily sensations.

[0:14:13-0:20:00]

  • Entrepreneurs struggle with change, control, and fear in their businesses.This is connected to risk and also presents a unique struggle with leadership. 
  • Joan outlines four steps for an entrepreneurial mental health toolkit: 1) embracing change as a constant, 2) developing emotional flexibility, 3) improving communication skills, and 4) managing risk-taking by addressing the fear of undesired emotional outcomes.

[0:20:00-0:35:00]

  • There is a deep connection between handling external change and internal emotional awareness.
  • “Alexithymia," is the difficulty in identifying and articulating emotions. How can awareness and education about alexithymia contribute to better mental health practices in workplaces?
  • Transmuting feelings can hinder your growth. It’s important to express authentic emotions.
  • You can break “trauma loops" by facing difficult feelings and acknowledging your needs and limitations. It’s GOOD to ask for help. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Everyone I know is under strange stresses financially, business-wise,

0:05.0

and there's just an enormous amount of mental health issues,

0:08.0

including many that affected my own family.

0:11.0

Most of us come to know what we feel through bodily sensation,

0:15.0

and the good news is they dissipate that intensity,

0:20.0

their feelings are transient, and they dissipate in roughly, their feelings are transient,

0:21.6

and they dissipate in roughly an upper limit of 90 seconds.

0:25.6

So that's the 90 seconds rule.

0:27.6

I showed him how his anger outbursts

0:31.6

were really an ineffective way of dealing with sadness and disappointment.

0:38.3

And it was a moment of, you know, kind of stunning awareness where he realized that, oh yeah,

0:46.3

what I really am is disappointed or sad.

0:50.3

And I don't know how to communicate that.

0:52.3

I've never known how to communicate that.

0:55.0

The military represents an idea of strength.

0:58.0

When the military, any branch of the military first goes into an area,

1:03.0

the first thing that they're doing is they're assessing for their needs and limitations.

1:07.0

If, ostensibly, the most obvious symbol of strength actually starts with acknowledging needs and limitations. If ostensibly the most obvious symbol of strength actually starts with acknowledging

1:13.6

needs and limitations and then secondarily ask for help, then from an entrepreneurial standpoint,

1:19.3

that would be a crucial thing for entrepreneurs to learn. This is the big leap.

1:39.0

This is the big leap.

1:40.0

I'm here with Gay Hendricks, who's been out for a while.

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