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This Scotland Outdoors podcast from BBC Radio Scotland.

Taking shape at Rathobyer's Forge in rural Edinburgh, a flurry of steel sculptures fit for a pantomime.

I've been invited along to join a forge in to meet a team of smoke blackened smiths as they get together for a day of creation.

And as long as your ears can handle it it I'm taking you along for the journey.

Thank you for choosing to listen

to this Scotland Outdoors podcast.

I'm Maud Start

and before you hear my hammer-wielding attempts

let's have a little tour of the forge

with co-owner and artist blacksmith

Shona Johnson.

So here we have what we call fly presses,

which are used to move the material cold.

We have a couple of anvils, which we're working the metal by hand and a hammer.

And we have a couple of lathes and some drills in here as well

and some level work benches for when we're setting out jobs a lot of our work there is a degree

of accuracy because generally something has to fit somewhere and certainly if it's a gate then

there's a space it must fit in so we do work to

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