The bath | Master Ep 1

Elon's Spies | Tortoise Investigates

Tortoise Media

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6 • 5.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Neil Gaiman is one of the world’s most successful authors. And one of the most loved. His works have been adapted for film, TV and the stage. Now two women, a former nanny and a fan, allege he sexually assaulted and abused them while they were in consensual relationships with him. He strenuously denies all the allegations.

Clip: The Sandman trailer - DDC comics / Netflix

Clip: The Ocean at the End of the Lane trailer - National theatre

Clip: The Simpsons - Disney

Reporter: Paul Caruana Galizia and Rachel Johnson

Producer: Katie Gunning

Additional reporting: Jess Swinburne

Original music and sound design: Tom Kinsella

Series editor: Matt Russell

Editor: Jasper Corbett

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0:00.0	Tortoise. The story you're about to listen to is one I've been working on along with the journalist Rachel Johnson for almost a year. We released this series in July
0:26.3	2024 but then in the weeks that followed Rachel and I were contacted by several other women who had similar stories to tell about Neil Gaiman.
0:39.0	Once we'd taken the time to investigate, we published two further episodes. All six episodes can now
0:46.9	be found here and they should be listened to as one because this is a complex still developing story of conflicting accounts.
0:57.0	Before we begin, I just need to warn you, it is a hard lesson at times. This episode and the whole series contains graphic descriptions of sex and of allegations of sexual abuse. views.
1:15.0	Eight months ago, a young woman got in touch with the broadcaster, Rachel Johnson.
1:20.0	It all starts with a message on Instagram.
1:24.0	Welcome to my podcast, Rachel Johnson's Difficult Women.
1:28.0	I present a show on LBC and the podcast called Difficult Women and I get a ton of messages.
1:35.0	This one seems no different.
1:37.0	It's from a young New Zealander called Scarlet.
1:40.0	We're using her first name only to protect her identity.
1:45.4	She wishes me a lovely day and says she's got a question.
1:49.7	It's friendly, breezy even, no hint there of the bombshell email that arrives a week later.
1:59.6	The email includes allegations of serious sexual assaults carried out by a famous man, a man who was
2:06.7	61 when Scarlet was 22 and worked as his child's nanny. In that first email, Scarlet doesn't name the author,
2:16.5	who she alleges sexually assaulted her within hours of their first meeting and she says continued to assault me over the coming month.
2:30.0	I arranged to talk to Scarlet and what emerges is a more complex picture.
2:36.2	Her allegations are of abuse within a consensual sexual relationship.
2:42.2	She tells me she did not consent to everything this
2:45.8	author did, nor every time he did it. But in her texts and video messages to him during their brief relationship and afterwards,
2:56.3	she declared not just her consent, but her gratitude, appreciation, affection, and even love.
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